Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:54:17 -0400
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Adding Power Steering
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Except for seals, I have only seen one other pump go bad. The housing wore
out and the vanes became real noisy-buzzy. Good clean ATF, change the
filter and they last almost forever. If it stops pumping or becomes noisy
time for another one. It is a common pump for a number of Audi-VW cars so
rebuilds are available.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Jim Felder
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:02 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Adding Power Steering
Speaking of power steering pumps, I bought a used one from Jeff
Schwaia (sp?) when the OEM pump on my 90 gave out a few years back.
It's been a great replacement for the money but it won't last forever.
It seems that these pumps should be fairly easy to rebuild.
Anyone done it? Who has the rebuild kit?
Thanks,
Jim
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans
<scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> well said,
> and to add something else............
> if you're adding PS to an 83.5 those never had PS as an option........
> so it's necessary to add a small feature that 84's and later have.....
> which is two 'frame notches' on the inboard side of the frame member
just
> below the filler neck.......
> so the PS pips can go between the fuel tank and the frame there.
>
> you'll need the fuel tank out of course.
> if it's an 83.5 original waterboxer, you need to drill and tap three
holes
> in the right head - the bosses are already there, for the Vanagon PS
pump to
> mount to the right head.
> if it's a Subaru engine, no concerns there of course.
> have fun !
> it's a great upgrade.
>
> I suppose the full length hoses work.
> My first thought on that ............just does not seem as good as full
> length STEEL pipes.
> If you can get non-rusted stock vanagon power steering pumps..........I
know
> that's what I would do for a PS conversion on any of my vans, or ones
that I
> rebuilt and upgrade through out and sell - stock steel pipes, front to
rear.
> If good ones can be found. And it's not that they are weak, but they
sure
> don't stand up to 20 years of severe corrosion where they salt the roads
in
> the winter.
> Someone should point out to the Insurance institute of America or
whomever,
> that salt on the roads costs millions of dollars in car repairs, if not
even
> loss of life now and then.
> in Oregon, fortunately, we have red volcanic cinder material to put on
the
> snowy roads. Works great, and is totally non-corrosive.
> Scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Collum" <collum@VERIZON.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:07 AM
> Subject: Re: Adding Power Steering
>
>
>> So that you have full understanding, the steering knuckles for
"Factory"
>> power steering vans have the tie rods attach at a slightly different
>> point. That's one of the things that cause a power steering van to be
>> harder to steer when the power steering is out. Fewer turns of the
>> steering wheel are required to go from lock to lock.
>>
>> Now, with that said, one can swap in a power steering rack and attach
>> the tie rods to the standard steering knuckles with the end result
being
>> a van that steers even easier than a factory power steering model.
>> Especially if the larger, non-power steering, steering wheel is kept.
>>
>> You'd want to get a power steering rack and the "U" joint as well as
the
>> rod that goes forward to the steering wheel mechanism as those parts
are
>> different. Of course, you'd have to have a power steering pump and the
>> lines (or hoses such as Frank Condelli sells) to go from the pump to
the
>> rack.
>>
>> Power steering models came from the factory with "Goodies" to boost the
>> idle when the steering wheel is turned to the stops.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> James Henry wrote:
>>>
>>> The question came up today on the Subaru Conversion list about adding
a
>>> Power Steering rack to an early (83.5, 84, 85) vanagon. I thought I
would
>>> ask here as well. Anyone had experience in adding a ps rack. Can you
>>> outline
>>> what is involved?
>
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