Date:         Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:19:38 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Header bolts broken
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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I like that, 'the heat wrench.'

ok, ok, I'll try stainless studs with nuts someday.........
or, if you are SURE stainless bolts come right out of the heads years
later..............I'll give that a try sometime.
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Header bolts broken


>I have been there done that with stainless bolts I have installed. Not
> seized into the head but rusted to the exhaust pipe. I do like studs and
> nuts. 2 chances to get it a part and the nuts always respond quickly to
> the heat wrench.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Frank Condelli
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:48 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Header bolts broken
>
> In a message dated 26/08/2008 7:37:24 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes:
>
>        Scott, sure have to  disagree with ya on this one !  I have been
> using stainless steel  bolts and nuts on all the exhaust system
> connections for
> over 10 years now  and the only problem I've ever seen is the bolts
> sometimes
> gall to the  nuts.  Never seen any problem with the bolts in the heads,
> into
> aluminium  or stainless Helicoils that I or someone else has put in there.
> Just
> my  personal experience !
>
>
>
>>>>>>>I would sure NOT recommend stainless bolts  screwed into the head.
> stainless is not 'perfect magic metal'  ............it corrodes ( just
> more
> slowly ) and breaks too, and if you  ever had to try to drill out a broken
> off stainless bolt, you would really  be cursing whoever put them in
> there.
> Not fun to drill at  all.<<<<<<<<
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Frank  Condelli
> Almonte, Ontario, Canada
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> (http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/busindex.html)
> - Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the Ottawa Valley
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