I have no problem forgiving someone. However if a bridge is out and I don't warn people and they plummet to their doom, whose fault is that? It is mine if I know about it and do nothing. That is what is going on here, a warning from experience. This is a person who lives off of the kindness of others. He uses the fact that people are willing to forgive and forget or to give a second chance against them. If it was a case of a single offense the folks who are warning you on this list would be doing it off list. Because it is a case of gross abuse to the Vanagon community in general that has been going on over the course of almost ten years, it has to be addressed. I would forgive a former child molester and give him a chance to be part of my church, however I wouldn't allow him to babysit my kids. It isn't about forgiveness. It is about knowing someone's weaknesses and helping them to avoid a situation where they are going to fall into sin. With Ken Morgan, if you want to help him in a spiritual way, don't do business with him as far as Vanagons are concerned. Think of it as helping someone stay on the straight and narrow if that makes you feel better.

Ken Wilford John 3:16 www.vanagain.com

John C... wrote: > How oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? > Till seven times? > Until seventy times seven??? > > Whatsoever We bind on earth shall also be bound in the Timeless. > Whatsoever We shall loose on this earth shall be made manifest. > > Judge not lest We Bring that judgment back upon our own selves. > > and lastly; > let him without sin cast the first stone. > ----------- > From: John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET> > > >> "Rapacious" fits in there too. >> >> John Rodgers >> 88 GL Driver >> >> >> Bob Stevens wrote: >> >>> Sociopathic miscreant is the term/phrase I use to describe this person. Going >>> >> to any >> >>> lengths to get his own self-absorbed, entitled, hedonistic wants satisfied. >>> It's simple fact about this person. He's a slime ball. This link describes him >>> >> quite well: >> >>> http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html >>> It is interesting that he would stoop to self-righteously promoting religious >>> >> dialogue >> >>> while the definition of miscreant always defines them as: >>> 1. depraved, villainous, or base. >>> 2. Archaic. holding a false or unorthodox religious belief; heretical. >>> –noun 3. a vicious or depraved person; villain. >>> 4. Archaic. a heretic or infidel. >>> >>> >>> There, (off soap box) >>> >>> Bob Stevens >>> '87 Syncro Westy 2.2 >>> >>> >>> >>>> Extreme Warning .... stay away from jake4parts on eBay aka Ken Morgan >>>> in Denver area. >>>> >>>> As Simon has mentioned ... this is perhaps the most disputable, >>>> corrupt business man you will ever encounter. >>>> >>>> Lots of posts in the Vanagon, Syncro and Samba archives from 2002, >>>> 2003 and beyond, about customers he badly abused and cheated. >>>> >>>> If it wasn't for some heroic efforts on Simon's part and a few others, >>>> there would have been even more victims. >>>> >>>> His trail of broken promises, theft and deceit know no boundaries. >>>> >>>> He has changed business names and seller identities many times to >>>> deceive our community. >>>> >>>> Those of you who know me have never seen me post such a negative and >>>> blunt post before about any person or business. >>>> >>>> That should tell you something. >>>> >>>> Please do not do business with this man. >>>> >>>> larry chase >>>> roadhaus.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 11, 2008, at 6:57 AM, Syncro@yahoogroups.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Re: [TDI-conversion] ***JAKE MORGAN***KEN MORGAN***JAKE LAKE*** IS A >>>>> Posted by: "Simon Reinhardt" simon@farrside.net vanaudigon >>>>> Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:58 am (PDT) >>>>> >>>>> That's his writing style, all right. >>>>> The more expensive motor, the 2.2 he has listed, is almost exactly the >>>>> same motor that went into Roadhaus. That ended poorly. The pistons are >>>>> different; apparently he dropped his idiotic custom design. >>>>> It's not that all of the ideas are bad, but the fact is that Ken >>>>> Morgan simply is not careful enough on assembly, and he is willing to >>>>> re-use marginal parts. >>>>> And yes, he's a fraudster, and he will fall back on his religion to >>>>> justify himself. >>>>> >>>>> HTH, >>>>> Simon >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> > >