Date:         Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:24:21 -0700
Reply-To:     Evan Mac Donald <vanagon_dad@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         Evan Mac Donald <vanagon_dad@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Extreme Warning .... beware of jake4parts on eBay aka Ken
              Morgan
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Thank you Ken. That is a good way to think of this problem. Stay on firm moral ground. Don't attack, just offer warnings.

Ken Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET> wrote:  I have no problem forgiving someone. However if a bridge is out and I
don't warn people and they plummet to their doom, whose fault is that?
It is mine if I know about it and do nothing. That is what is going on
here, a warning from experience. This is a person who lives off of the
kindness of others. He uses the fact that people are willing to forgive
and forget or to give a second chance against them. If it was a case of
a single offense the folks who are warning you on this list would be
doing it off list. Because it is a case of gross abuse to the Vanagon
community in general that has been going on over the course of almost
ten years, it has to be addressed. I would forgive a former child
molester and give him a chance to be part of my church, however I
wouldn't allow him to babysit my kids. It isn't about forgiveness. It is
about knowing someone's weaknesses and helping them to avoid a situation
where they are going to fall into sin. With Ken Morgan, if you want to
help him in a spiritual way, don't do business with him as far as
Vanagons are concerned. Think of it as helping someone stay on the
straight and narrow if that makes you feel better.

Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com


John C... wrote:
> How oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him?
> Till seven times?
> Until seventy times seven???
>
> Whatsoever We bind on earth shall also be bound in the Timeless.
> Whatsoever We shall loose on this earth shall be made manifest.
>
> Judge not lest We Bring that judgment back upon our own selves.
>
> and lastly;
> let him without sin cast the first stone.
> -----------
> From: John Rodgers
>
>
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