Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:38:11 -0700
Reply-To: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Who is the Manager of this list?
In-Reply-To: <20080827171111.IPKT22820.eastrmmtao103.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net>
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Your right they are not programs. Gota be careful using terms
without thinking.
I like Yahoo or Gmail for one very important reason. I can see
all my mails from any computer from anywhere. Pop emails for me
is only done when I store emails off and away. Outlook is good.
But it is strictly for emails not for posts from a list or a forum.
Posts of a list or a forum should stay in where the list or forum
is. It does not make good sense the list has to broadcast everything
it receives to everyone on the list. How do you distinguish such
broadcasts from SPAMs?
Bottom line is emails are emails. Accessing a forum via emails
is the old way but not necessarily a good way. A web based forum is
superior to a list platform in almost every perspective, if not
all. All posts stay in where the forum is. It doesn't bother you
with hundreds of emails (they are posts not emails) to your mailbox.
Go to the forum when you want to read, post and react to the forum.
It is only one URL or a bookmark away.
The only issue with web based forum is the cost. Who is going to
pay for the cost and who is going to manage it. I guess this is
too an issue for a list platform. Vanagon list already has a web site.
Why not just start up a web based forum right there? Most of us will
love it.
I can understand how tough it is for changes. I am sure some people
are still using Windows 3.1 on Intel 486 systems. It is so dam hard
to move to anything newer.
David
--- David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> wrote:
> At 09:30 AM 8/27/2008 -0700, David Kao wrote:
> >Yahoo, Gmail and probably most other mail programs are all web based.
>
> Beg Pardon? Yahoo and Gmail are mail services, not programs. They
> do have a web interface, but Gmail at any rate also has a POP server
> so that you can also retrieve your mail with Eudora, The Bat!,
> Thunderbird, Polarbar, Outlook Express or other email client program.
>
> The Gmail web interface works quite well, but it's no comparison to a
> proper email program. I only ever visit gmail directly to check the
> spam trap; but my email program fetches mail from gmail every few
> minutes, as my attglobal.net address is forwarded there.
>
> >So a web based forum is not going to be any slower, if the graphic
> >content and java scripts are kept at a minimum.
>
> See above...
>
> >With the current list platform it is impossible to respond to posts
> >interactively. Yahoo very often delays list emails until the next
> >morning.
>
> That sounds like an excellent reason to leave yahoo, not a reason to
> change the list. My list mail goes to attglobal.net and is then
> forwarded to gmail, and I still receive it within a very few minutes
> -- and I'm pretty sure that delay is mostly at gerry.vanagon.com, as
> I receive my own posts from other lists within seconds of sending them.
>
> > It is very difficult to search the archive.
>
> I believe that will be addressed by a hardware change, as will the
> slight delay in serving outgoing mail.
>
> Regards,
> David
>
>
> --
> David Beierl - Providence RI USA -- http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/
> '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage," '85 GL "Poor Relation"
>
>
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