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Date:         Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:13:46 +0000
Reply-To:     Richard Golen <rgolen@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Richard Golen <rgolen@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Who is the Manager of this list?
Comments: To: Robert Fisher <refisher@mchsi.com>
In-Reply-To:  <001d01c90896$9889e3e0$c99daba0$@com>
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As a grumpy old fart and email only proponent, I'd like to have the list remain the way it is. Plain and simple. I like the sense of community (even though Frydaes don't seem to be the same as in years past), I like the immediacy of responses to my queries and assorted questions (its great to be able to not have to dig through a group forum to get help), being able to answer questions and give help, advice and commiseration based upon what comes across my mailbox, and lastly to be able to vicariously share in other's trips, triumphs and, yes, their down times.

The list is a potpuri, a collage and a community of all things Vanagon. It has developed a personality over the years. As an old fart, (I've been on here since 2/93) I am proud to still wear "Poor" Richard Palmer's "NETVERNUGEN" t-shirts and sip from his coffee cups. Speaking of which, "NETVERNUGEN" seems to somehow capture the spirit of the list. What was that song from "Fiddler on the Roof"??? TRADITION!

As in the past, when we had the split between the air-cooled and Vanagon groups, someone can always start their own forum based group and its attendant sub forums, etc.

Ric, Proud Old Fart 87 Westy

> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:45:14 -0700 > From: refisher@MCHSI.COM > Subject: Re: Who is the Manager of this list? > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > --snip-- > I am talking about something like: > > http://www.apug.org/forums/forum13/ > > --snip-- > > That looks to me to be a perfect example of what the 'email only' proponents > (as opposed to 'grumpy old farts', if y'all prefer) don't want. I'm sure > that's useful to the people that are willing to invest the time into it in > pursuit of that particular subject/passion, but it's overkill in the extreme > for the purposes of this list. > We have, afaik, about 800 members and one subject. Dividing that subject > into 'community' items and 'technical' items would kill the character of the > list and complicate things exponentially. Not what I had in mind at all. > > Cya, > Robert

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