Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:55:55 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Help needed: ABA conversion has spark and fuel but won't
start.
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sounds good Ben.
if the engine ran, and is basically untouched, I naturally start thinking
about the wiring.
and as far as any excuses go about changed wiring colors or
whatever.............a hard working clever determined guy might be slowed
down some by that, but not stopped, not stopped at all.
the exhaust being off is OK...........O2 sensor is not involved in cold
starting.
OBD-I or OBD-II........?
if -II I wouldn't be surprised that the ecu would really want to see an O2
sensor, but it still should start.
and codes, is anyone looking for codes and seeing what they say.
sometimes that'll point you right to the right spot.
sorry your guy is defensive or whatever you want to call it.
you depend on him so I guess you can't rile him up .............but
........shoot.........I would HOPE like crazy that anyone who is really
interested in seeing the thing fixed and running could put their ego aside
and take input ! etc.
Look for a hard working, clever guy with less ego.
Hope you get it going soon !
Scott
www.turbovans.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "BenT Syncro" <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Help needed: ABA conversion has spark and fuel but won't start.
> Thanks, Scott. As I mentioned to the poster just before you, the gas
> should
> be fresh at less than 3 weeks old.
> The filer is locked and does not appered to have been tampered with. That
> squirted out smelled fine per the guy
> workking on the Doka.
>
> Exhaust is still off the truck so that should not be a concern or is it?
> Ox
> sensor is not be connected at this time.
>
> I am suspicious about the firing order and will check it myself when
> nobody
> is around to be offended. The truck
> is at a friend's shop and the mechanic working on it is a bit sensitive
> about being questioned about the quality of
> his work. Yeah, yeah, I know that does not sound like a good thing. The
> guy
> has worked on many of my oddball
> projects so I don't want to tick him off.
>
> Will try some quick start fluid just for the hell of it but not before
> checking for flooding.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> BenT
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>
>> well, if you think it's not gasoline really in the tank,
>> the simple test is to pour some fresh gas down the throttle body or into
>> the
>> intake manifold.......
>> if that makes it go VROOM................then you know that with
>> gasoline,
>> it can run.
>>
>> since it's got both fuel spraying , assumig the poster checked that
>> that's
>> actually happenhing,.....................and for sure has
>> igntion.........
>> then the next most obvious thing to suspect is that they're out of time
>> somehow. The fuel isn't timed per se I don't think, though, but the
>> camshaft sure is.
>>
>> also..........flooding.
>> pull the plugs to see if they are wet-fouled.
>> Simply being flooded so the plugs can't fire falls under...............
>> 'has
>> fuel and ign but won't fire.'
>>
>> firing order of course.
>> need to check that 5 times.
>> the ABA has a distributor I'm pretty sure , so checking basic timing and
>> firing order is pretty straightforward.
>>
>> I promise you ..............
>> "it's just a leakage or blackage of electrons or fluids."
>>
>> I also remind people 'fluids' includes gases like exhaust , air, and
>> vaccum.
>> but it IS just a leakage or blockage, , or more than one, of electrons or
>> fluids.
>> scott
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