Date:         Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:02:23 -0400
Reply-To:     Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
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From:         Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
Subject:      Re: Was: Re: John Wessels Glori's --- Now: California Engine
              Conversions
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This is not true Jeff, I don't know where you got this impression. The
CARB would not even prescribe which of the two types of lab testing
needed to be done via the application process. Rose Castro told me
personally that if the engine came from an OBDII vehicle they defer to
the BAR and nothing can be done through CARB to obtain an EO. They
will not even allow you to get to the point of submitting the lab
results.  Show me an OBDII conversion that is legal in CA and you'll
be onto something, but until then nothing has changed.

Jim Akiba



On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Jeff <vw.doka@gmail.com> wrote:
> Any "clean" engine conversion can be certified as legal in California... IF
> you are willing to pay for the testing.  Unfortunately, the testing adds
> about $3k to the cost.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Don Hanson
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:12 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: John Wessels Glori's Import offering Zetec & Subie engine. Was:
> now..ignore the small stuff..?
>
> I've been sort of following this thread.  Since I don't actually live in
> California, I probably shouldn't chime in, but I do spend winter months
> there and I've been around the Calif. beaurocracy some.  It's scary that
> other states justify stuff by pointing at California, also.
>
>  I have some friends who have an engine conversion company for mostly
> Porsches. They were forced out of California over to Las Vegas to do
> business.  Renegade Products.  They supply conversions for putting Chev V8s
> into 944s and 911s.  The owner even has an LT-1 Vette motor in his 914. (
> ~500hp in a 2000 lb roller skate!)
> They got so frustrated with the CARB, the DMV and all,  that they just
> packed up and moved to Nevada and now do just fine out there.  Even though
> the conversions they sold tested much cleaner than the 80's-era turbo
> Porsche motors they were replacing, they were not 'allowed' by Cali..  I
> know many of their customers have their vehicles now registered in Nevada,
> also.   ...
>