Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:09:50 -0700
Reply-To: dylan friedman <insyncro@YAHOO.COM>
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From: dylan friedman <insyncro@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: The dreaded "Vanagon Syndrome" - or is it? Formerly: Question
about temp II sensor and bad running
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Digitool time.
Dylan
Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
> let's say the other side of frustration is patient determination.
> I consider frustration a form of anger.
> as much as possible, I don't do anger.
> great diagnostic technicians are clever, creative, and endlessly patient,
> and determined to get it, no matter what it takes.
> And sometimes it takes a lot.
> On either end it's only frustrating if you let it be that way.
> We could just as easily consider it fascinating and interesting.
> and hey, they're old..........they do this once in a while !
> it is purely and simply a 'blockage or leakage of electrons or fluids."
> just gotta find 'em.
> that last mark discussion about the injectors and 02 was very good.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Lincoln" <magikvw@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:00 PM
> Subject: The dreaded "Vanagon Syndrome" - or is it? Formerly: Question about
> temp II sensor and bad running
>>I have to agree with Mark - we do go through this a few times a year. I
>>read
>> these topics closely because I had some of the same issues after
>> reinstalling the engine in Grover.
>>
>> Ran poorly after 30 seconds or so, rich running, no power, stumbling,
>> backfiring.
>>
>> What fixed it for me was changing the Temp2 sensor. I haven't had a
>> problem
>> since. Now am I saying that is the fix - nope I'm not - it's just what
>> worked for me.
>>
>> I think the reason we go through this over and over is that no one
>> "really"
>> knows what causes it - partially because it's a elusive thing and
>> partially
>> because (in my opinion) there are many things that could cause it. Off the
>> top of my head here are the usual suspects thrown out there:
>>
>> *O2
>> *Temp 2
>> *AFM
>> *Hall Sensor
>> *"Vanagon Syndrome" (also relates to AFM
>> *Injectors
>> *Grounds
>>
>> These could all be right individually - or a combination of many. It could
>> also be that every bus that is stricken is stricken for a different
>> reason. Who really knows? It's a frustrating issue to those who have to go
>> through it. I also think it's frustrating to those trying to lend advice.
>>
>> I think this is one of those issues that will continue to plague or little
>> community. Believe me I know next to nothing about how things really
>> work -
>> but it also seems those who do know their stuff can only guess at what the
>> cause is.
>>
>> The point to all this? Well, I'm not even sure anymore. I am just happy
>> that
>> there is the knowledge of this list to try to help with this bugger of an
>> issue. For those of you experiencing (or who will experience) this all you
>> can really do is see the list above and ask the list what they would do.
>>
>> Best of luck :)
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeff
>> '90 Carat (Grover)
>> '86 (We call this one Parts)
>> '78 Bus (Melissa) Patty's Bus
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