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Date:         Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:01:48 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: help me understand US emissions control strategy.(NVC)
Comments: To: Chris S <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
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it doesn't matter who makes them. what matters is how many cars, or diesels, or widgets get produced on the planet every day. Just consumerism itself is tearing up the planet. worrying about who or where things are made is not seeing the global picture.

'they' think it's all about dollars and 'the economy' which I knew when I was 6 is actually a false notion. We will see what happens as time goes along, but perhaps some are realizing that the current situation of more and more cars on the planet every day ......can't work forever. The planet's car population might be increasing in the tens of thousands of cars PER DAY ........considering India and china ......... given all the riggamarole around oil in the ground, getting it and turning it into vehicle fuels........... and what burning all that fossil fuel does to the environment .......... I think it's safe to say we might be seeing the end of an era., or at least the beginning of the end.........................driving as we have know it. I really hope we get to keeping getting the go-juice at a reasonable price, and get to drive around like normal people, as opposed to overly-controlled things like photo ticket devices and too electronic modern cars .........they are actually taking the 'driver' equation out of really advanced cars. but .........sorry to wander ........ I'm not surprised the perception is that diesels are fowl - they have been. And I recognize newer ones are far better. And of course.............unburnt gasoline hydrocarbons coming out of a tailpipe smell for sure - very unhealthy ..........spewing unbrunt HC into the very air we live and breathe in.

Meanwhile we are so lucky to get fuel for our vanagons and there are places still that are wide open and pretty unrestricted - fortunately. and hey..........if we are going to be burning it ............in my world gasoline looks pretty nice for numerous reasons. Though I do have a couple of really nice rust-free Sunroof Diesel Vanagons for sale, one a rare 5 speed, and the other one nearly collectible grade. Scott www.turbovans.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris S" <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:21 PM Subject: Re: help me understand US emissions control strategy.(NVC)

> I'm a TDI driver so maybe I'm partial, but I don't think diesel stinks. I > think it smells better than gasoline. I also think that a gas car out of > tune stinks. > > I think traditional diesels, the F250-types, are horrid and are a huge > part > of why the US consumer has yet to draw a distinction between those and the > newer clean ones. But I think that is changing, as a lot of positive > press > is floating about the new clean diesels from many automakers. > > What does not help is that those new diesels all come from foreign > automakers, GM is currently banking on plug-in hybrids (hello coal > power!), > and Ford is ignoring the US passenger diesel market as well despite many > good offerings in Europe. > > So, that leaves the forces of free market and political lobby will decide > the fate of diesels in the US. > > So there. There's my 15-cents worth of what I think. :-) > -- > Chris S. > Disclaimer: "Death and serious injury may occur"


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