Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:59:08 -0500
Reply-To: Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Tune Up or Not?
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Scott...I'm w/ya but kid can't drive a stick and he needs it this weekend.
Wish he didn't cuz I like to road test for awhile. AND I don't have a fire
extinguisher, yet. If you can recommend one that I can get locally ASAP, I
will p/u today. Thx again.
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> 1. the tune up parts themselves, in waterboxer vanagons, especially if real
> Bosch ones, last REALLY well, and are not the weak link at at.
> 2. it takes about 4 to 6 minutes to look under the distributor cap and
> remove one spark plug for inspection.
> 3. whenever you touch or work on a car, you introduce opportunities for
> something to be different, or not right, when it might have been just fine
> beforehand. I would not, for example, change the fuel lines and then hand
> the van over to someone to go on a trip.
> That is REALLY asking for trouble. You don't truly, truly know your fuel
> line work is good until the thing has worked properly for a few weeks, and
> you've inspected your work a time or two in the meantime.
> 4. Really............here is a Scott Foss Turbovans Shazam quote :
>
> "It's not the parts, it's the workmanship."
>
> people think 'changing parts' is fixing cars. It's not. The real repair and
> improvement, or restoration back to full health relies about 80 % on
> workmanship, and only 20 % on the parts installed.
> Example : .......tdi sycnro Vanagon, Symptom : horrible 2nd gear sycnro
> action. A shop changed the pilot bearing, which was toast........The shop
> installs a waterboxer pilot bearing with just *nothing* for a pilot bearing
> dust seal. That pilot bearing will just turn to dust, like the first one
> did, in maybe two and a half years, and then like the first incorrect pilot
> bearing, it'll contribute to tearing up the 1,500 dollar or whatever it was
> sycnro transmission rebuild job.
> A proper diesel pilot bearing with built in dust seal is the right part.
> About half the waterboxer clutches I take apart..........the felt dust ring
> seal is missing, because the little metal ring that retains it is missing,
> likely because it was removed by the machine shop to surface the flywheel.
> They of course forget about that tiny part. The shop forgets about it, It
> goes back together with no pilot brg. dust seal..........and a few years
> later, the little rollers are rusty dust.
> I see this ALL THE TIME.
>
> it's the Workmanship, not the parts.
>
> And when I work on vanagons, I find myself restoring this or that, treating
> rust, replacing things left off, tightening loose stuff , or whatever.
> There is far, FAR more to REALLY fixing and restoring back to full health
> than just installing a part or several.
> I'll even say this, installing whatever part........is really only 40 % at
> the most, of 'REAL repair and bringing back to full health' is.
> do good work, have fun !
> Scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Sullivan" <
> sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Tune Up or Not?
>
>
>
> Well, my kid wants the van for the weekend, so will do the lines on
>> Wednesday so I don't regret it. Thanks all.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@yahoo.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> I applaud your intentions, but have always found that doing something
>>> uncalled-for generally results in the unintended and unwanted. But that
>>> could just be me.
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>> --- On *Sun, 9/14/08, Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM>* wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM>
>>> Subject: Tune Up or Not?
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 5:01 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> Kinda feeling lazy today and was gonna replace rotor, cap and plugs. I
>>> will
>>> be doing the fuel lines in a week or so. Van is running great and wonder
>>> if
>>> I can do another chore and just keep the tune-up parts on hand. Just
>>> don't
>>> know when last done from PO and don't want to make trouble later on, but
>>> if
>>> it aint broke.... Opinions?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael in San Antonio
>>> 91GL AT 'Gringo'
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael in San Antonio
>> 91GL AT 'Gringo'
>>
>
>
--
Michael in San Antonio
91GL AT 'Gringo'
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