Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:19:43 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: help me understand US emissions control strategy.(NVC)
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it's Friday and Roger needed somebody to tell this story to.
Getting 'witnessing' is a normal emotional need..
It just feels good to get heard about the maddening ( trivals ? )
........challenges of daily life in crazy times. .
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Hundt" <dhundt@BENDBROADBAND.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: help me understand US emissions control strategy.(NVC)
> Dude, WTF???
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Whittaker" <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 3:17 PM
> Subject: Re: help me understand US emissions control strategy.(NVC)
>
>
>> dear friday ranters
>>
>> canadian speaking here - one who thinks there is very little science and
>> a
>> lot of hyperbole in the global warming political movement - having stated
>> where part of my foot print is -
>>
>> and regarding the touted fuel efficiency of vehicles sold else where -
>> the else where being a place where driving might be limited to dates that
>> match your licence number - -
>> protectionist legislation never works over the long term - ..
>> and what may look like an aside is actually indicative of why things are
>> s
>> out of control --
>> last month we sent a payment in the form of a bank draft from canada in
>> american dollars to a credit card company owned and operated by HSBC (the
>> h
>> stands for hong kong)
>> the instrument was returned to the issuing bank stamped as uncashable ???
>> with out certification ...??? due to the fact that HSBC lacks the
>> infrustructure to accept funds drawn on forgien banks ...
>> we call .. customer service located in south east asia tells us that the
>> instrument is not even recognized as having been processed ... we ask to
>> speak to supervisor ... get a guy who is in Ponoma California .. first
>> thing
>> he tells me is that the instrument is in canadian $$ i tell him that
>> clearly
>> stated in three different places is the fact that it is in american $$ --
>> he
>> tells me to avoid future occurance i should send the item to -and he
>> starts
>> to give me an address -
>> as i write it down i notice the address is the same on at the top of the
>> returned item letter -
>> i say hey wait a minute you are telling me to send this back to where
>> this
>> letter came from -
>> yes he says -... arrgggg -- then he tells me that a machine processed the
>> item and refused it last time -...
>> but if i send it to Pomona address a real person will open it -
>> i see says i ...
>> -- it is no wonder the banking system is coming apart at the seems -
>> all we need is one or two experainces like this where the guy on the
>> "service end " is tellign the customer that the error is made by the
>> customer --...
>> systems are designed to benifit the individual at the top of the pyramid
>> ...
>> never the individual -
>> read Anthem by Ayn Rand
>> message out
>> return to regualr earth broad cast
>> :)
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson@gorge.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I read on MSN's homepage news about Ford having built a 65mpg diesel
>>> Fiesta
>>> and currently selling it everywhere except the USA. Their guy states
>>> that
>>> the US is so anti-diesel that they can't sell those fuel efficient
>>> vehicles
>>> here. Yet I hear the US Gov. is considering a 'bail-out' to Ford Motor
>>> Company because they aren't selling the P.O.S. trucks and big vehicles
>>> they
>>> do market here in the US.
>>> Can someone 'splain why it's more "green" to allow a 'regulatory
>>> exemption' to SUVs for fuel efficiency standards and a tax break to buy
>>> them
>>> and then 'over-regulate' diesel vehicles? Yuh think a 10mpg Humvee or a
>>> 9
>>> liter Triton V-10 pickup is more "green" or less polluting than a diesel
>>> Fiesta getting 65-frikken miles per gallon? How come our automakers
>>> can
>>> sell pickup trucks with the same motor you find in long haul tractor
>>> trailer
>>> trucks (Cummins, Navistar, Allison, etc.) so that Mrs. Rancher can drive
>>> down to Wal Mart for a Chinese plastic bucket, or Mr. Macho can run
>>> round
>>> the freeways all week looking cool in his 'trash can masher' (Wheels and
>>> tires so big he can straddle the yellow line and get the cans on both
>>> curbs)
>>> and yet we aren't allowed to convert our Vanagons to TD power in many
>>> states?
>>>
>>> These 'allowed vehicles" use up six times as many barrels of oil burned
>>> up
>>> per mile traveled, and six times as much fossil fuel by-product is
>>> spewed
>>> into the atmosphere. It's ok for the gas guzzler to be here, but not
>>> the
>>> little diesel car? (according to the corporate whores who write our US
>>> vehicle emission standards).
>>>
>>> 70% of the ROW vehicles on the roads are diesel powered (because it's
>>> more
>>> fuel-efficient)...What's with these creeps making the rules here in the
>>> USA?
>>> They stupid? They greedy? They think we (the population) here have an
>>> unlimited supply of Vaseline and will just stay bent over, taking it for
>>> ever?
>>> Rant over..Back to your regular political Palin-tology news now (for us
>>> here in the US.)
>>> Don Hanson
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> roger w
>> There are two kinds of jobs in the world:
>> Picking up garbage and telling people things.
>> Successful people do both, with the same good attitude. (riw)
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