Date:         Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:58:19 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Question about testing O2 sensor with digital meter
Comments: To: Mike S <mikes@flatsurface.com>
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oh we're in trouble now !
Figured you had an air-cooled vanagon has they do indeed have a cold start
valve, and being late on the conversation possibly, you didn't know Jim is
talking  about his 2.1 waterboxer.

but now .......you're saying a TDI ALH engine has one ?
I know the AHU better ..............and , correct me if I am wrong ......but
there are only  4 injectors on a 4 cylinder ALH tdi engine,
and no cold start injector.

yes.........longer injection times, you got it.

A separate cold start injector is just a hokey thing, and old fashioned too,
in my opinion.
I don't think there are any modern engines that have them.

here's a fun one for ya .........I can't remember the model right now
...........but there are now cars .......might be a Lexus ...........that
have both port fuel injectors and direct injection injectors in the
cylinders.  In other words,  16 injectors on a V-8 engine .....
or maybe it's 12 injectors on a V-6.    Gonna be expensive to fix someday if
work is eventually needed on them.
Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike S" <mikes@flatsurface.com>
To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: Question about testing O2 sensor with digital meter


> At 05:27 PM 9/26/2008, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote...
>>there is no Cold Start injector on a waterboxer vanagon of course.
>
> Tnx. I've got an A/C, which has one, and know that FI Rabbits had one,
> just figger'd it was standard with older Bosch FI. They still use 'em with
> recent diesel (TDi/ALH) engines, too.
>
> What does a W/C use for cold start fuel enrichment? Just longer injection
> times?