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Date:         Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:57:36 -0700
Reply-To:     Bill MacLachlan <billmacla@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Bill MacLachlan <billmacla@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      white clouds out of the exhaust
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Hi all. I need a bit of feedback here and perhaps some moral support.

I've had my van for the past ten years - an 82 converted from diesel to an 1800 inline4 just before I bought it.

Early last summer I had a local shop install a replacement motor. Used motor. Inline 4. 1800cc.CIS injection. Same as the one that was in there.

Since I picked the van up early summer I've put just over 100 miles on it.

It's been back in the shop 4 times, and today after work will be time # 5

Here's what happened

I left the van at the shop to have the motor replaced. That's what I asked them to do. It was with them a couple of weeks. They called and I authorised installation of a fuel pump cut off relay ( pump was wired directly- relay makes sure it shuts off if the motor stops). I went to pick the van up and it was running terribly. Not fit for driving. I left it with them for another few days. They replaced a few motor electrical connectors ( cut the old ones off, taped on used ones). I paid for the work in full, ( significantly more than the original estimate), drove the van home.

#1 drove it to work next day. It wouldn't start at lunch time, so it was towed back to the shop. They worked on it. I paid for a couple of shop parts and a fuel pressure regulator that was apparantly not working right.

#2 drove van home. Wouldn't start the next day. Took transit to work, van towed back to the shop. Eventual cause of not starting..... blocked oil pressure relief valve- high oil pressure- hydraulic lifters- open valves- no compression. Nothing to do with the parts I paid for.

#3 asked the shop if it was ready to go for emissions testing. They said yes, I took it, it failed catastrophically. In ten years I've never seen numbers that bad. Drove it back to the shop.They adjusted it, it passed emissions ( very well). I paid for the second test.

#4 drove it across town. oil light came on. Oil leaking onto the intake manifold. Took it to the shop. They found it overheating, replaced two temp sensors on radiator, replaced valve cover gasket. I paid for the temp sensors. Mechanic told me the brownish white goop on the end of the dipstick was condensation inside the motor accumulating in the oil pan, and this was the reason for white clouds coming out of the exhaust a couple of days previously when I started the motor. ( I actually thought the van might be on fire!).

Friday evening I drove just out of town, and it overheated. ( cold radiator, cold hoses to radiator). 10.00 pm. dark. unknown suburb of town. I let it cool off, drove to the destination. Stopped when it heated up again, let it cool off. Looking in the engine compartment I saw the airfilter box under the CIS fuel distributor had been mounted so that it was wearing a hole in the main coolant return line from the radiator. Taped a bit of cardboard to stop the damage progressing. Let it sit Saturday. Started it up Sunday morning. Intensely rough uneven, running, smoothing out a bit. Thick white clouds coming out of the tail pipe, even when the idle settled down.. Switched it off, started up again after a half hour, drove home. Stopped twice to let it cool down when it overheated.. Parked it at home. Went to put it in the underground at 11.00. Ran so rough that the gearshift was jumping around.

I am exhausted by the grief I've had over what should have been a two day motor replacement. This afternoon I have to deal with more when I take it back to the mechanic. My guess is he'll tell me the overheating is due to the thermostat which was used from my old motor.

Any suggestions on the white clouds at start up? They don't happen every time. I think they happen if the van has driven for a while, is left overnight , then started up.

Bill M


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