Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 00:25:22 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: '83.5 westy starts, runs well, stalls, won't restart
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hey,, nice to see your note !
no worries mate !
fwiw, I have rarely seen a failed fuel pressure regulator. Can't remember
the last time, and I work on fuel injected vanagons full time.
I did see an shot injector fill a cylinder solid with fuel once though.'
I haven't seen your scenario of fuel in the intake through the fuel pressure
reg.
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "neil N" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: '83.5 westy starts, runs well, stalls, won't restart
> Mike. Scott.
>
> For sure. I should know better.
>
> I "saved" a 1.9 WBX that was "seized" according to the PO. (actually
> hydro locked. Crankcase FULL of oil/gas)
>
> It had a faulty FPR diaphragm and a burned/melted FI. (likely due to
> the excess fuel "lighting up" in an intake runner)
>
> This 1.9 also had a totally hinky alt bracket. (one hole ovaled with a
> bolt jambed in. The other was sheered off. My temp fix:
>
> http://musomuso.googlepages.com/alt.tempbrackets
>
> I guess I was "saying" they don't flood like a carb engine as I
> assumed the OP *may* not know a lot about engines. I didn't express
> this though.
>
> Regardless, I stand corrected! --- :^)
>
> Neil.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans
> <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>> oh, they can flood just fine !
>> All you have to have for one to flood is fuel being injected, but fouled
>> or
>> worn plus not firing the fuel in the cylinders.
>> The fuel injection doesn't know that the plugs aren't firing if they're
>> worn, have big gaps, etc.
>> All the EFI know is 'I"m cranking, I'm supposed to hold the injectors
>> open
>> the right amount of time.'
>> it's not 'smart' in any way. ( super modern cars are - , they can detect
>> misfiring in individual cylinders, and shut off fuel to individual
>> cylinders
>> , and I would imagine even during cranking. Then you get to see the
>> CEL. )
>>
>> I can't think of a time in hundreds, practically thousands, that I've
>> seen
>> or worked on, of vanagons, where there was an actual fuel pump relay
>> issue
>> of any kind. One extremely reliable long-lifed part !
>>
>> Even having it checked out is not much of a guarantee sometimes.
>> I looked at really NICE looking 86 Westy - they had been asking $ 9,000.
>> (
>> and it was down about $ 6K on serious repairs it needed )
>> The first thing I noticed was with the engine idling ( roughly and poorly
>> too ) the alternator was jumping around by about an inch ..........just
>> dying to break the mounting bolts or bracket ...........as obvious as 4
>> flat
>> tires to any vanagon savvy person.
>> They sellers said ........."oh we had it checked out "...........it was
>> by a
>> local VW shop............mostly an air-cooled type shop ...........but
>> that
>> shop missed a common and well known vanagon weak area ( alternator
>> mounting
>> ) by a country mile. A smart 10 year old could have easily spotted it.
>> But a check out is much better than no check out.
>> Scott
>> www.turbovans.com
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "neil N" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 7:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: '83.5 westy starts, runs well, stalls, won't restart
>>
>>
>>> It's a fuel injected engine, so flooding shouldn't be an issue.
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