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Date:         Tue, 7 Oct 2008 20:20:18 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Technical question re: Injector firing signal
Comments: To: "B.J.R." <beer_eighty@YAHOO.COM>
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the answer to your last question ...............yes, there sure are.

first............the ONLY way I ever check for an injector signal at an injector plug is to plug a Noid Light into the wire connector, then crank the engine. If it flashes............the ecu is firing the injectors. Cranking it on a remote starter switch is much better since you are right there by the engine. 90 % of the time on a no-start........I find that the ecu is triggering the injectors, and that's not it.

about inputs to the ECU...........which it depends on to know how long to hold the injectors open are........ engine temp, and I think there's a temp sensor in the air flow meter - see Bentley manual. The ECU has to see the that the engine turning - it gets that from the distributor/ignition system. throttle position switch

Of course lack of inputs or correct inputs can lead to a no start condition.

you also need fuel in the lines under pressure..........as controlled by the fuel pump relay and fuel pump, and the ECU triggers the fuel pump relay. Does the fuel pump run for a few seconds when you turn the key to 'on' ? the 3 fast things to check for a no start are : injector pulse, ignition, fuel pressure. You also need to know the spark plugs are not worn or wet-fouled. If they're old and worn .........you can get a floods-but-won't start condition fairly easily. Scott www.turbovans.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "B.J.R." <beer_eighty@YAHOO.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:51 PM Subject: Technical question re: Injector firing signal

>I have an 82 aircooled CA Westy, > > My van used to run fine, a stumbling at light load turned into it not > starting any more. > > This is the only malfunction I can find in the system is... > > I have =battery voltage(12v) at the + injector connector(to ground) on the > wiring harness, key on, > but no signal (using LED voltage tester) when turning engine > over(connector + to connector ground at ECU using test light). > > I have continuity on; each wire in the harness& all three grounds on the > ECU. > I have voltage to the ECU > > I'm assuming it's the ECU and am in the process of getting it replaced. > > THE QUESTION IS... > > Is there any other component, or combination of components that gives the > ECU the signal when to fire the injector??? That may be the culprit for > not getting a signal at the injector?


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