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Date:         Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:01:44 -0700
Reply-To:     Neil2 <vidublu@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Neil2 <vidublu@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Frydaye - Chinese VW Jetta gets flattened......
Comments: To: Mike <mbucchino@charter.net>
In-Reply-To:  <6B1277E57A3F4D988235FA216F9DB4AB@mike2d93581d7f>
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Wow, I'm amazed the truck must yield in Japan. Not so here (u.S.) and it (our law) seems safer to me.

IFAIK, the VW yields in PRoC. It's very diff for me to be certain since from just driving there you see both parties yield. I'll try to determine the answer.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Mike <mbucchino@charter.net> wrote:

> Gee, Ben, who pissed in your Wheaties this morning? > > I used the words, 'apparently' and 'they seem to be', for a very good > reason; to avoid making such an obviously, blatantly irresponsible > statement. > This truck driver seems to fly through some very thick traffic (speed too > fast for conditions), and didn't appear to slow (failure to use due > caution, > and failure to allow driver's turning left to clear the intersection, when > that car was clearly in the intersection first) for a very busy > intersection. > So, in my mind, and probably in the eyes of the law, he was mostly if not > entirely at fault. I do know that in Japan, he would have been found 100% > at fault. > Professional drivers are generally required to able to properly control > thier vehicle in any circumstance. I have held an international driver's > license since 1982 (when I lived in Okinawa Japan for 3 years), and have > been driving professionally for over 17 years. > And just for the record, I have been travelling both professionally and > recreationally all over the world and the USA, for the past 26 years, so I > don't think that I need to "get out more". I've seen you make this > callous comment to others, also. You are not the only person on this list > who regularly travels extensively. > In addition, if you want to call someone on a single, merely simple > typographical error, you should be very careful to make sure that your > reply doesn't contain any such oversights (like "type on" instead of "type > of")............it just makes you look bad, it shows very poor form, and in > Neil's words, is "unnecessary". > Your consistently poor use of the English laguage shows in practically all > of your postings. Maybe you should should turn your attention to > perfecting > the language, spelling, content and typos of your own postings, before > wasting your efforts in picking apart the mistakes in other listee's > postings. > > Mike B. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BenT Syncro" <syncro@GMAIL.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:26 PM > Subject: Re: Frydaye - Chinese VW Jetta gets flattened...... > > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:15 AM, Mike <mbucchino@charter.net> wrote: >> >> Oh, those crazy divers in China. This busy intersection doesn't appear >>> to >>> have any traffic signals or rules! >>> >>> They're apparently all new drivers there, and they seem to try to drive >>> cars the same way that they've walked or bicycled for the past several >>> thousand years.......... >>> >>> http://www.break.com/index/scary-truck-rollover-destroys-small-car.html >>> >>> >> >> What do "divers" have to do with busy intersections in China? You really >> should get out more. >> This type on accident can occur anywhere. Just turn your TV to the Spike >> channel on late >> afternoons. Sure there is a greater ratio of inexperienced vs. experienced >> drivers in China. But >> making an absolute statement they are "...apparently all new drivers >> there..." is irresponsible. >> >> The two postings that followed makes a good example. I am not saying they >> are inaccurate but >> the posters clearly locked on the idea of China rather the accident video. >> Do you think they >> would have written something totally different had you said something like >> "Those crazy drivers >> in San Francisco..." >> >> By the way, the bicycle has only been with us since circa the 18th >> century. >> So no, the Chinese >> or anyone else for that matter could not have been doing this for '...the >> past several thousand years..." >> Hard to say how the Chinese walked thousands of years ago w/o having any >> first-hand accounts. >> I suspect they walked the same way as other people elsewhere in the world >> -- mostly on two legs. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> BenT >> >

-- Neil2 '82 Diesel Westfalia (USS Tinosa) '86 Vanagon/Westfalia Wannabe (SaVannah) Nunquam Pendite Divendium


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