Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:20:29 -0400
Reply-To: Jeff <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jeff <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Don't cry for me Wasserboxer
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All I'm saying is that the bars leak was the catalyst for the radiator
plugging. No doubt there was crap in the system, and that crap must
have solidified due to the interaction with the bars leak.
There was no other problems with the two vehicles I referred to. Just
a minor drip on the vanagon and an even smaller leak on the eurovan.
Additionally, it is very common for bars leak to cause heater cores to
plug.
Jeff
iPhone email.
On Oct 15, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Ken Wilford <kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote:
> Jeff, I don't see how this can be. I have seen this scenario:
> Vanagon is overheating due to water leak or radiator fan not
> working. Person repairs water leak or radiator fan and perhaps adds
> a bottle of Bar's Leak because he sees some seeps as well. The
> overheat condition has liquefied a bunch of corrosion that was
> happily sitting in the bottom of the engine water jacket and this
> has been pumped into the radiator. Now the van starts to overheat
> because of a plugged radiator but it is not the Bar's Leak, it is
> the crud that got suspended in the antifreeze and was flushed into
> the radiator. I have looked inside these radiators and the trash in
> there is usually orange (not black). This is nothing but corrosion
> sludge.
> That has been my experience. I have never seen black sludge inside
> bad radiators only orange. If you weigh a bad radiator it will
> weigh several pounds heavier than the new one when it is empty. Are
> you telling me that a small bottle of Bar's Leak that weighs only a
> few onces is going to plug up a radiator and then cause it to weigh
> several extra pounds? This is sludge due to corrosion.
> Ken Wilford
> John 3:16
> www.vanagain.com
>
>
> Jeff wrote:
>> I have... Two in the last year alone. One vanagon, one eurovan. Both
>> had minor water leaks, but no other issues. Within days of adding
>> bars
>> leak, both had overheating issues due to clogged radiators.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> iPhone email.
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Ken Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have never seen a radiator fail because it was full of Bar's
>>> Leak but every one I have ever replaced has been full of
>>> rust.
>>>
>>> Ken Wilford
>>> John 3:16
>>> www.vanagain.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave Arthur wrote:
>>>> I have a persistent drip between my RH cylinder head and block on
>>>> my '86 2.1
>>>> WBX. Tears of Glycol...
>>>>
>>>> Compression is good and no signs of head gasket failure ... Yet.
>>>>
>>>> I almost hate to ask, but what about a 'stop Leak' product or the
>>>> like? Or
>>>> is this sort of fix nix verboten?
>>>>
>>>> If the coolant gasket is leaking, is it inevitable that the
>>>> cylinder seals
>>>> will follow? Would a pre-emptive replacement of the head gaskets,
>>>> coolant
>>>> and compression stave off further problems?
>>>>
>>>> Advice welcome!
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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