Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:59:30 -0800
Reply-To: dylan friedman <insyncro@YAHOO.COM>
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From: dylan friedman <insyncro@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Vanagon templates for vehicle graphics
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Agreed.
My local guy wraps our Porsches and GT1 cars per event.
No templates and a skilled applier with a sharp knife.
When I worked R&D for Burton Snowboards we wrapped my van with each years graphics.
It ran about $1500 for a fullsized Ford E-350.
The quality was excellent.
I have seen poor image transfer, which surely cost less.
I have had the front of my vans done before cross country trips to cut down on rock chips.
Works great and just remove with slight heat.
The second time I did it, I saved the entire piece and reinstalled for winter driving on a beater.
dylan
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From: Greg Potts <greg@POTTSFAMILY.CA>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:49:00 AM
Subject: Re: Vanagon templates for vehicle graphics
Hi Ben,
I work as a printer technician in the wide format printing industry, I
work with the people who do vehicle wraps on a regular basis.
A template isn't a requirement per se, but it does make the planning and
execution of a wrap a lot easier. If I can find a professional template
then there's a pretty good chance I can get my vanagon wrapped by one of
our vinyl suppliers at no cost to me. I just have to drive their logo
around for the next 2 years!
Areas like the gates on a DOKA are usually done using two copies of a
graphic. One copy is fitted to the outer parts and another is needed to
cut into the insets. Installers are trained in the techniques needed to
stretch and shrink the vinyl to fit almost anything.
Cheap wraps are starting to flood the market as more and more installers
are getting training. There's also a flood of inexpensive vinyls hitting
the market, so I expect that those $1K installs are NOT gonna be using
3M's control-tac product that is warranteed for 3 to five years. $1000
wouldn't cover the material cost to wrap a midsize car with a name-brand
vinyl.
Can it be used as a paint alternative? Yes, if you are used to
repainting in 3-5 year increments. You don't need nice paint underneath
at all, just a smooth glossy surface. Vinyl won't stick well to primer.
In my case I am hoping to use the vinyl to postpone a repaint.
Happy Trails,
Greg Potts
1973/74/79 Westfakia "Bob the Tomato"
1987 Wolfsburg Weekender Hardtop
www.busesofthecorn.com
www.pottsfamily.ca
BenT Syncro wrote:
I didn't realize a template would be necessary to wrap a Vanagon. I was
> actually thinking
> of gettim my Doka wrapped. I realized the gates would be nearly impossible
> to do properly
> because of the hinge ribs over corrugated surfaces. Wrapping the rest would
> be good enough..
> 'Though it would be a perfect excuse to call my Vanagon a "business use"
> vehicle. Besides,
> I thought the unusual shape of a Doka would be a good way to call attention
> to my message
> on the wrap.
>
> Vehicle wraps are being advertise locally for $1000-$2000. Doubtful that
> they had Vanagons
> in mind with that pricing.
>
> Paint alternative? Can the stuff be used as an alternative to paint for any
> given amount of time?
> I mean, use a cheap paintjob underneath maybe even a homemade job. Then put
> the wrap on.
> Thinking carbon-fiber look would be a cool finish for the Doka.