Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:40:41 +1000
Reply-To: Dave Yates <transparu@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Dave Yates <transparu@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Any Websites? - Auto Tranny Repair/Rebuild
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Hi John,
You'll need to replace metal parts and the interleaved friction parts
(all "user replaceable") and there are some spilt rings/seals. I did
not replace the latter and should have. I'm going to pull the thing
apart again to do these. There are also bushes in about 5 places and I
was ignorant about these. I can look up the part number for this kit
if you wish - as none of the people I talked to at the time mentioned
it. These are basically ?bronze? ferrules in which the pump shaft
fits in various places. (www.transmissionpartsusa.com have:
710-000071601 71601 Bushing kit VW, Audi 010, 087, 089, 090 ). Wear
allows ATF to pass by when it shouldn't so pressures decline - the
same with the spit rings.
There is the brake band.
There are a couple of paper gaskets and some other seals that should
be done at the same time. (There is a "transmissions seals" kit. .
the elring Part No is 010 398 007 B "Gasket set". The screen and
seals for the pan and the seals for the governor are included in the
Gasket Set.
Depending on wear/new parts, there MAY be a need shim or two to limit
endplay. A maens of measuring this (as per Bentley) is needed, but it
is reasonably straightforward. The shi I needed cost a couple of
dollars. (You also need to tension some bolts to lower values than a
normal tension wrench will allow.)
You most definitely do not need any jigs or any sort and there are
only two (or maybe one) tolerances to be concerned about.
My pan was very clean so I did not op[en up the valve boduy, though
WILL do that too one day. This is basically to clean it properly
though.
You would be strongly advised to have the torque converter serviced
too as it should be cleaned out at the same time.
I had no need to look at the diff though there IS a little bit of play
there now. The local VW guy said they were as tough as any and
shouldn't need any attention.
I could send a list of the A/T parts I needed and a couple of possible
US suppliers if you want to email mail me.
I hope this helps?
All the best,
Dave
2008/11/10 John Rodgers <inua@charter.net>:
> Dave,
>
> Thanks so much for your input. I was GIVEN a 1990 Vanagon Carat with a bad
> auto tranny. Vehicle is decent, jut the tranny is slipping badly, and no one
> in this neck of the woods wants to touch a Vanagon. It's an orphan child you
> know. Even the VW dealers hate to see one come in. So, having read a bit on
> the list that they aren't that difficult, I have put in to do it myself. I'm
> not bad, mechanically speaking, being trained as an aircraft mechanic. It's
> just that this thing is new to me, and I do know from previous experience
> that for the manual tranny's ya gotta jig it to rebuild one. And jigs I
> don't have.
>
> When talking about rebuilding - just how deep did you get into it? Full
> transaxle, or just the discs, etc, or did you go as far as to open up the
> differential and take a peek at the planetary gears. .Just curious.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> John
>
> Dave Yates wrote:
>>
>> John,
>> I rebuilt mine successfully and I am a mug mechanic. I bought parts
>> from the US (readily available) and it took more
>> care than brains! It took as bit of faith in myself too, but I had
>> dismantled a failed one and that showed me how "simple" the thing s.
>> It is straightforward but takes a lot of just looking at things. I
>> needed only 2 special tools, both oif which I could easily borrow.
>>
>> I think taking LOTS of photos at disassembly is useful, so too are
>> some pages from Chilton's Guide to Automatic Transmission Repair
>> 1980-1984 Import Cars & Light Trucks as it includes the Vanagon auto
>> transmission. I paid $2.99 for my copy! (See it at
>> http://www.themotorbookstore.com/chgutoautrre.html for $29 or so).
>>
>> Keep in touch John. . I'd encourage you to start gathering
>> information. I found NO site that had the info I needed.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Dave
>> downunder
>>
>>
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>>
>> 2008/11/9 John Rodgers <inua@charter.net>:
>>
>>>
>>> I can't say I have seen this on the Web anywhere. Anyone know of such a
>>> web site. I would be interested because I soon enough will have
>>> auto-tranny issues to worry with.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John Rodgers
>>> 88 GL Driver
>>> Chelsea, AL
>>>
>>>
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