Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:25:19 -0500
Reply-To: Chris S <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Chris S <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Oil temp musings and hairbrained ideas
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Mike,
I understand your thinking. In my case I'm pushing 112hp with a
cooling system that's designed for 90hp MV 2.1l WBX. The engineers
may have deemed the cooling system sufficient for the average user,
but my use involves transporting 5 people plus a small trailer of
camping equipment to the mountains in a Westfalia camper. Those ice
cube trays add weight too, you know.
Chris.
2008/11/20 Mike <mbucchino@charter.net>:
> Also, why fix what ain't broke?
> Many people think that they could somehow 'out-think' the VW engineers on
> what they perceive to be 'wrong' with their vehicle.
> The only thing that's wrong there is their thinking.........
>
> Mike B.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Bange" <jbange@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Oil temp musings and hairbrained ideas
>
>
>>> HAIRBRAINED IDEA #1: Has anyone installed a scoop under the oil pan
>>> of the WBX to catch air and increase cooling of oil inside? Something
>>> like Terry Kay's famous auto transmission scoop idea? (pic:
>>>
>>> http://community-2.webtv.net/VanStuff/VanagonWestfalia/media/captureD35.jpg)
>>
>> I always loved the complete failure to understand how the heat flows
>> in the waterboxer evidenced by good ol' TK's "scoop cooler".
>> Transmission fluid is kept at the coolant temperature by the heat
>> exchanger. When he says "the temp needle rides lower" with the scoop,
>> he's basically saying he's using a drag-inducing scoop to lower the
>> coolant temp (via the ATF heat exchanger) below the thermostat temp.
>> He could achieve the same effect by using a lower-temperature
>> thermostat (since ATF temp follows coolant temp) and letting the
>> radiator do the work! An oil cooler scoop is the same sort of thing.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> HAIRBRAINED IDEA #2: A bigger oil cooler for the WBX?
>>> http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=78993
>>>
>>
>> Wow. I like that idea. Might take a little detective work to find
>> hoses that fit, but it looks like it might do the trick. The TDI guys
>> seem to think highly of it, with their chipped n' tweaked heat-blaster
>> engines.
>>
>> I'm personally leaning towards a thermostatic sandwich plate and air
>> cooler like TenCentLife did, but only because it seems a little more
>> fun to install...
>>
>> --
>> John Bange
>> '90 Vanagon - "Lastwagen"
>> '90 Vanagon GL - "Wiesel"
>>
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