Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:06:00 -0800
Reply-To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Yes it does...and here is how to do it. (was Re: THIS DOESN'T
WORK!!)
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I get the same 2 results with:
http://www.google.ca/custom?hl=en&cof=&sitesearch=gerry.vanagon.com&q=acura+overheating&btnG=Search&meta=
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Tom Forhan <fourwdvw@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I tried the following search and it found the referenced acura post
> immediately:
>
> "site:gerry.vanagon.com acura overheating"
>
> The difference is that you have to specify the correct server. The archives
> are on "gerry.vanagon.com" while the "www.vanagon.com" site contains the
> more generic information. They are different machines in different
> locations.
>
> Tom F.
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 11/30/08, pickle vanagon <greenvanagon@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> > From: pickle vanagon <greenvanagon@GMAIL.COM>
> > Subject: THIS DOESN'T WORK!! (was, Re: Using Google Groups
> to archive messages)
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 12:56 PM
> > Sorry for shouting in the subject line. But, as you say,
> > this suggestion is
> > posted all the time, in varying forms. But, as I've
> > posted a few times
> > before, it doesn't really work!! Google does not
> > currently index the whole
> > vanagon site. (Don't ask me why). When you try to
> > search the list this
> > way, you are missing a large fraction of the archive.
> >
> > For example, I challenge you to find the following message
> > ("randomly"
> > selected):
> >
> http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0611b&L=vanagon&F=&S=&P=28169
> >
> > This message contains the search terms head, gasket, and
> > acura
> >
> > But you will never be able to find this message using
> > google, because google
> > does not know of its existence. This seems to me to be the
> > case for the
> > vast majority of messages actually. So, two lessons here.
> > First of all,
> > all those times when you used google to search the list,
> > there probably were
> > a lot of more relevant results that you missed. Secondly,
> > there really is a
> > search problem. The archive search is basically unusuable
> > and google is NOT
> > a substitute (it doesn't work, it just looks like it
> > does). Currently, if I
> > NEED to search the archives, I find the only reliable
> > option is to search
> > "by email" using the instructions here:
> > http://gerry.vanagon.com/info/searching.html (note that
> > though this
> > sometimes takes a while, it always works.)
> >
> > The issue with google is an issue with ALL currently
> > available methods of
> > using google to search the archives. Including using
> > "advanced" searches,
> > or using the site:vanagon.com command, or whatever. If you
> > think you have a
> > way that works, try to use it to find the message I linked
> > to above.
> >
> > In response to the original poster (about google groups), I
> > think its a
> > great idea. Hopefully, they'll add the possibility of
> > moving over the past
> > emails in the future.
> >
> > -Wes
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Bob Stevens
> > <mtbiker62@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > A thorough search of the archives (yes, tongue in
> > cheek) will disclose what
> > > has been suggested here .... that entering your search
> > subject, then "
> > > vanagon.com archives" in the google search box,
> > will always get you very
> > > quick results. That then brings to mind the blather
> > that is included in the
> > > majority of posts, while not changing the subject in
> > the subject box and the
> > > reason the archives are so full of not-much-of-use. Go
> > take a look. It's a
> > > fact.
> > >
> > > The wheel does not need reinventing (IMNSHO), but does
> > need to be put on
> > > the Vagen we already have in order to be useful.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > > '87 Syncro Westy
> > >
> > >
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Jake
1984 Vanagon GL
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