Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 13:03:57 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Jacking Up a 2WD GL w/Syncro stuff?
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it's a lot of work......
but I've thought about doing it too........putting in Syncro suspension but
running 2WD.
As you say, there will be no speedometer unless you drill all the way
through a front hub / stub-axle piece...
which sounds pretty difficult to me, it's about 6 inches long.
and you absolutely must use a front 'stub axle' ........a bolt stuck through
the front Syncro bearings won't work at all.
I have one I'm saving, or would sell, but you need two of
course...........the outer CV joints come apart, but not easily, but ya
gotta have that outer end of the stock front axle going through the front
bearings.
I can't imagine why the 2WD gas tank wouldn't still fit. You won't have a
front diff or driveshaft or anything.
A syncro gas tank..........
the engne and trans sits lower in a Syncro Vanagon than a 2WD one, but about
1 and a half inches.
The syncro gas tank is JAMMED in the van so
tightly.............well......one still might fit.
Someone else on here knows for sure perhaps. You should know that syncro
gas tanks are 'not fun' ........
to deal with, not at all.
I've got one out of a gasoline Double Cab syncro if you're interested. It
uses a filler neck system that goes straight to the side of the van, rather
from the rear corner of the van like a syncro passenger van or westy has
........and those filler systems are bothersome too- the ones that go to the
rear corner of the van. . But I do have this syncro type 'over
transmission' fuel tank for sale.
syncro suspension will get you a little more height..........if you want
more stiffness than stock.........then you'd want syncro.org springs or
similar.
I love those with Old Man Emu shocks, and the right tires and wheels.
Perfect shock/spring combo.
Syncro front suspension, btw, isn't that fun to work on, compared to 2WD,
though without axles in there it would be easier of course.
the rear trailing arms are the same in 2WD and 'normal' 14 inch syncro's
.........just the springs are different. 16 inch syncro's have longer rear
trailing arms, people modify 14's to be longer to make a fake 16 inc syncro
etc. But you only need rear syncro springs basically.
sounds like a terrific amount of fun !
Scott
www.turbovans.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jake de Villiers" <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: Jacking Up a 2WD GL w/Syncro stuff?
> Loren Busch used the Van-Cafe taller springs to raise and firm his Westy
> with very satisfying results.
>
> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Max Wellhouse
> <dimwittedmoose@cfu.net>wrote:
>
>> Don't know that this question has been asked before, but here it goes.
>>
>> I would consider increasing the ride height of my 90 GL in part
>> because somewhere down the road I'll be sticking either a Zetec or a
>> Subie in back. I have an entire Syncro suspension at my
>> disposal(since it didn't sell on ebay) and was wondering what it
>> would take to get the 2WD up in the air a little more. I DO NOT wish
>> to have the AWD stuff or I would've kept all that too. I also don't
>> want to do the air bladder thing inside the existing springs.
>>
>> 1. What makes the Syncro sit higher than the Vanagon? Is it just the
>> springs or is it the entire suspension?
>> 2. If it's okay to just add just the springs, will that change the
>> suspension geometry to the point of doing harm to the rest of the
>> parts, or can adjustments be made to the alignment and make things
>> correct?.
>> 3. If I bolt up the entire sub frame from the Syncro to the 2WD, will
>> there be gas tank issues with no front diff in place?
>> 4. Is there a difference between the rear control arms of the Syncro
>> and the regular 2WD?
>> 5. If I use the Syncro front hubs, will I need to either stick used
>> outer CV joint housings in the splined holes and tighten them to 140
>> ft.lbs. to protect the bearings? Would simply adding a high grade
>> bolt and thick washers do the same thing with regard to bearing
>> protection?
>> 6. Any chance of drilling through whatever I stick in there to house
>> the speedo cable?
>> 7. if the 2WD gas tank won't fit up front, will the Syncro tank
>> still fit in the back with a 2WD tranny in there(I knida doubt that)./
>>
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> DM&FS
>>
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>
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> Jake
> 1984 Vanagon GL
> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
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