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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:50:32 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris S <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Chris S <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: video: Making of a Vanagon
Comments: To: Andrew Grebneff <goose1047@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <f700b5ac0812021523w50650af3l1eb7c48440563b03@mail.gmail.com>
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I can fit 2 mountain bikes in the back of my New Beetle, while running circles around you on any obstacle course. The original Beetle was poor handling, poorly heated, slow, unsafe and with marginal brakes. That's why I had 3 of them. :-)

On 12/2/08, Andrew Grebneff <goose1047@gmail.com> wrote: >>> You're not forgetting about air bags, and ABS brakes and such things , >>> right > > T3s were available with ABS. Airbags are easily added. Stability > control likewise (but this is no guarantee of safety... "Wheels" in > Australia recently tested a Toyota Kluger (=Highlander) and the > stability control did NOT step in when it should have... and the > vehicle rolled several times (and the Aussie market demands much > better suspension than US). > >>> since the only 'people sit right in front' vehicles sold in north America >>> are trucks. ( I'm thinking those Isuzu cab-over diesel delivery trucks >>> and >>> similar cab-over trucks ) >>> In all cars , mini-vans, and people haulers, the occupants are >>> mid-mounted >>> these days. > > Well, the Japanese have continued with forward-control vans (and > likewise the 2nd-generation Mitsubishi Delica made by Hyundai as the > H100). These must be passing Euro NCAP offset-head-on crashtests, > which the T3 would pass with flying colors. > > > >>> ...and I sure don't see Touregs everywhere......... > > Funny, as the near-identical Porsche Cayenne sells well. > > >>> not too kind to the Tourareg ( spelled it >>> right that time ) > > Um... no. > > >>> Fun, sporty, well made............half modest cars.......and with >>> Spunk..........that's why the New Beetle is a great product for VW , it's >>> got that VW 'thing' ........a certain funky cache. > > > The New Beetle is a grossly flawed car. It looks wierd, handles poorly > and has less room for luggage than a Real Beetle. It was a cynical > attampe to cash-in on the "retro" market. > > I think a worldwide petition to VW might be worthwhile, but how to organize > one? > > > -- > Andrew Grebneff > Dunedin, New Zealand > Fossil preparator > Mollusc, Toyota & VW van nut > Temporarily in Calgary, AB, Canada > <goose1047@gmail.com> > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > + To unsubscribe from the Vanagon List send an e-mail to > + listserv@gerry.vanagon.com with SIGNOFF VANAGON > + in the body of the message. > ------------------------------------------------------------ >

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