Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:24:08 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Jack Stands
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foldable jack stands sound great for carrying on major trips, if that's what
you're thinking.
Though 4 sounds quite heavy to take along.............I carry two light
weight ones..........I believe in being very prepared, but not 'over
prepared' and will fudge just a bit toward 'not quite as prepared for just
anything' to save weight and room. If I just have to, I can find something
to support the van.
3 tons for each jackstand is much more than you need. That's 6,000 lbs.
Even stuffed, a vanagon is in the 5,000 and something range. That means ONE
of the 3 ton jack stands could support the entire van balanced on it.
Since you only hold up one corner of the van at a time with a jack stand, a
2,000 lb rated jack stand would work adequately.
In my shop I have major bomber 4 ton or whatever jackstands, but if you're
thinking 'folding' and fitting them in the van......
I personally sure wouldn't be carrying anything that heavy on board, since
it's not likely to be needed anyway, if you've done your work on the van
properly.
Can't think of what you're talking about with the 2 X 4.
on the rear, I 'hook' my jackstands into the outer forward 'crook'
almost......of the trailing arms. I don't use the jacking point there. And
the jack stands hook into the front corner of the trialing arm nicely at an
angle..........like the stand is not straight in line with, or straight
across, relative to the van........set diagonally like this they are more
stable, on a flat hard surface of course.
On the front, I do use the jacking point.
I also find that the 4 support points like this are not exactly in
plane.............one front needs a small wooden pad, like 5/16ths inch
thick.....
for the van to side dead evenly on identical jackstands, on a flat hard
surface.
hope some of that made sense !
Scott
www.turbovans.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "M'obeechi" <obeechi@RUNBOX.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:53 PM
Subject: Jack Stands
Big URL but nice product:
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&productId=100594518&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=100594518&cm_mmc=1hd.com2froogle-_-product_feed-_-D25X-_-100594518
These jack stands look to be the bomb for packability. I have standard four
ton jack stands, and they are a complete pain in the ass to fit into the
vanagon, and no matter what you do, they're wasting a lot of space, but
these... wow... they pack real well.. which opens up the number of places
they can be stashed without banging into something.
Anyone know if a 3 ton jacks are okay for fully loaded vanagons, lets assume
the heaviest for now.
Also, has anyone used those bottle jack hydraulic types. I wonder if they
could be used with the extension meant for the HiLift (as far as HiLift,
putting that thing in the vanagon is an even bigger nightmare). I was
thinking also that the end (front or back I forget) where you have to use a
piece of two by four wood because of the metal gap (when resting on a jack
stand) that you (I) could have someone weld a metal plate to this area. Any
thoughts on this?
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