Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:14:01 -0800
Reply-To:     David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
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From:         David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
Subject:      Re: The final answer on the "city light" debate
Comments: To: Mike S <mikes@FLATSURFACE.COM>
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The section in Wikipedia about London, Paris, Moscow bit *isn't*
authoritative as it doesn't site a reference - further proof to me that
the city light for use in bright citys is a myth.

As Wikipedia
states, park lights and city lights and standing lights are used on an
interchanging basis and it all means the same thing.  The lights that
come on with the first position from off setting of the headlight are
these lights [next position being headlights are fully on] - they are
located either in the headlamp or in the signal marker **but never both**
on a stock vehicle as the functions of these lights are the same - to
function as what north americans would call a park light.  

I'll still live up to the original offer of C$20 via PayPal to the first
person who shows me that a city light and a park light are different sets
of lights on a stock ECE or DOT compliant vehicle.

David
Marshall
VW Adventure Driver and BMW Adventure Rider
 
http://www.hasenwerk.ca

On Fri, December 12, 2008 06:28, Mike
S wrote:
> 
> On 12/11/2008, David Marshall wrote...
>>There is no such thing as city light - a urban legend or
myth...
>>OK volks...
> 
> Meh. Wikipedia is
hardly an authoritative "final answer."
> 
>>
 there is no such thing as a separate city light system on a
>>vehicle - parking lights are the same as city lights and it is
not
>>legal
>>to use them alone in a city anywhere
in Europe now or any ECE
>>complying
>>country.
> 
> There _are_ city lights. The term refers to auxiliary
bulb installed in
> the headlamps, as opposed to separate lamps.
BMW "angel eyes" are a
> current example.
> 
> True, due to modern legalities, they come on with the parking lamps
on
> current vehicles. But that doesn't prove that was always the
case, or
> make them into "urban legends."

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