Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:25:33 -0800
Reply-To: David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
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From: David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
Subject: Re: The final answer on the "city light" debate
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Sounds like you have an ECE vehicle - the park lights are in the
headlights. If light switch is on, with engine off and signal stalk
the center position both parks come on. If the light switch is on,
signal in the left position and engine off only the left park light is on
and vice versa if the light is in the right position. "It's a
feature, not a bug!" :-)
David Marshall
VW Adventure
Driver and BMW Adventure Rider
http://www.hasenwerk.ca
On Fri, December 12, 2008 08:19, Roger Whittaker wrote:
>
> dear lamp lighters and guide-on
>
> the 1989
California we own has a very interesting feature regarding lights
> if i get out of the vehicle without shutting the lights off a very
non
> bright light is on in the outside upper corner
> it
is enough to cause absolutely every one to come and tell me my lights
> have been left on
>
> if i try to start it with
the switch in the on position -- like when i
> turn
> the
key to pre heat ... demanding power--
> the lights come on to full
intensity
>
> well it turns out this is some sort of
disabled vehicle safety idea --
> so i have been told
>
interestingly enough some one sent me an original brochure copy for our
> vanagon
> and the front port side light is featured on the
front cover --
> and it is on in this quiet upper left corner way
i described already ...
>
> also if i were to have my
turning signal on when i shut down--
> then the lamp in that
side's head light lights up ...
> as if this quiet upper corner
light were sleeping with one eye open ..
> as it were
>
-- i am simply happy that the lights are not Lucas --
> which used
to be my favorite remark when any vehicle i was around had
>
persistent head light issues
> "ah yes. Lighting by
Lucas."
> yours
>
>
> On Fri, Dec
12, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Mike S <mikes@flatsurface.com> wrote:
>
>> On 12/11/2008, David Marshall wrote...
>>
>>> There is no such thing as city light - a urban legend or
myth...
>>> OK volks...
>>>
>>
>> Meh. Wikipedia is hardly an authoritative "final
answer."
>>
>> there is no such thing as a
separate city light system on a
>>> vehicle - parking lights
are the same as city lights and it is not
>>> legal
>>> to use them alone in a city anywhere in Europe now or any
ECE
>>> complying
>>> country.
>>>
>>
>> There _are_ city lights. The
term refers to auxiliary bulb installed in
>> the headlamps, as
opposed to separate lamps. BMW "angel eyes" are a
>>
current example.
>>
>> True, due to modern
legalities, they come on with the parking lamps on
>> current
vehicles. But that doesn't prove that was always the case, or
>> make them into "urban legends."
>>
>>
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>
> --
> roger
w
> There are two kinds of jobs in the world:
> Picking up
garbage and telling people things.
> Successful people do both,
with the same good attitude. (riw)
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