Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 2008 02:43:06 -0800
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From:         M'obeechi <obeechi@RUNBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Nokian Tyre Recommendations
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WR's are good tires, even if you live in Southern California. The only possible problem with them, could be if you want tires rated for heavier loads, but then, with other Nokian's, you might find the tires are louder than you like. WR's are going to give you better all weather service than Agilis tires, they'll also give you better wheel protection from curbs than Agilis will. 

Small Car Performance carries WR's for 15 inch wheels, and 16 inch too. That's not where I bought mine, think I got mine from an online place that shipped them from the Sacramento area. Right now I have two Agilis upfront, and two WR's at the rear. If it wasn't for a mishap, I'd still have just WR's, though they are a bit old at this point... 

From: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Nokian Tyre Recommendations

> Cool.
> 
> Currently it's a toss up between the WR and Vanco Winter.
> 
> The Vancos are only $676 mounted (not balanced).
> 
> We'll see....
> 
> Neil.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Jon Kanas <kanas@qadas.com> wrote:
> > Greetings Neil and Listers,
> >
> > Nokians are expensive.  I am willing to pay the premium, as I don't go
> > through tires all that frequently, and I am very impressed with the quality
> > of the tire.  The price you quote seems typical;  I paid around $200 USD per
> > tire including mount and balance for the 17" WR passenger tires when all was
> > said and done.  There may be better prices on the web, but I have a local,
> > independent tire store I trust, so that's where I take my business.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Jon
> >
> > neil N wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Jon.
> >
> > Good to hear some input on the WR tires. And for sure. Studded
> > aggressive snows would be over kill. The CS looks like the tire I
> > would get.
> >
> > For anyone considering Nokians, they are pricey. (I knew this already)
> > The quote I got for 4 Nokian WR-C "Van" was $869 Cnd. On sale too.
> > Still a bit of an "ouch", but then I can't recall the last time I
> > bought a set of tires, so am a little out of touch.
> >
> > I'll be curious what Nokian CS's would cost me up here in Vancouver B.C.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Neil.
> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Jon Kanas <kanas@qadas.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Good Day Neil and fellow Listers,
> >
> > I am running the studded Nokian Hakkapeliitta ( I believe 10C) studded snow
> > tires on my Westfalia Syncro on steel wheels in the winter.  They are
> > remarkable on snow and ice.  In nearly 40 years of Colorado driving, these
> > are the best foul weather tires I have ever owned.  They have a lot (100+)
> > of studs per tire, are extremely noisy and do not handle well on dry
> > pavement.  I have them mounted on steel wheels, and only use them during
> > severe winter weather.  They are good enough that I have learned to watch
> > behind me when slowing on icy roads --  I can stop and turn much better than
> > others on the road.
> >
> > I have Nokian WR tires on both of my Subaru Outback wagons, and on my
> > Mercedes 300TE before it was totaled.  They are much better in snow and
> > water than the Michelins I previously had on the Mercedes, and much better
> > in EVERY respect when compared to the Bridgestones that were on the Subaru
> > wagons.  They are noisy at low speed, almost like a noisy rear wheel
> > bearing, but the noise dissipates over 30mph.  We are on our second set on
> > one of the Outback XT wagons;  the first set lasted for about 35K miles.
> > The WRs also have the little snow symbol on them which means that they are
> > compliant with Colorado's "adequate snow tires or chains" law.
> >
> > Per  your post and links, I would consider the WR (or similar) that is
> > appropriate for the Vanagon.  Unless you live where there is ice and snow on
> > the roads all winter, I think you will find the aggressive snow versions of
> > the Nokian tires to be excessive.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Neil Nicholson '81 JettaWesty "Jaco
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> 

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