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Date:         Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:03:13 -0800
Reply-To:     Zeitgeist <gruengeist@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Zeitgeist <gruengeist@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: TD/TDI noise?
In-Reply-To:  <03b801c96264$1c1f6140$6701a8c0@PROSPERITY>
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Heh heh heh...you have no clue. I've owned well over a dozen diesel powered rigs (and professionally wrenched on dozens more), and yes, even an '82 diesel Vanagon. The latter is/was a joke. The Vanagon 1.6TDs were a bit of a chuckle, but the TDIs are stone-cold serious. I'm primarily an MB turbodiesel guy these days, but I give well-deserved props to the TDI as a truly innovative and impressive machine. The NA VW diesels were perfectly serviceable (routinely seeing 250k or more) in the smaller lighter chassis, but hopelessly out of their league in a big 'ol brick like a van. That's hardly compelling an indictment of diesel technology

Whatever...

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans < scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

> lol. > how many have you owned when the blew to pieces ? > not any I gather ! But someone will be owning those cars when they have > an expensive repair or rebuild due. > > We could debate it forever, so you like what you like, and I'll be down on > diesels for being smelly and noisy - and blowing up easily, like the stock > engines in diesel vanagons . And 1.9's too, in diesel vanagons. Have seen > and read about a lot of those blown up. I have one here.........it went > through two heads in about 3 years. > > and yes, due to much more advanced technology, like multiple > mini-injections after the main event..........the traditional clatter > associated with diesels is eliminated with a electronic modern tdi. Magical > things are achievable via electronics. > But tell my dump truck neighbors to operate their stinky diesel downwind > from me. They really are offensively smelling. And they'll let the things > idle for an hour sometimes, not far from me. Not pleasant. The noise of > diesel helps ruin the hearing of many truckers after years too. > > I think all diesel lovers should camp downwind of some idling diesels for a > few days. > no offense intended though, for sure. > just Opinions. > Scott > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zeitgeist" <gruengeist@GMAIL.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 2:22 PM > Subject: Re: TD/TDI noise? > > > > Dood, there are no downsides to diesel. That noise is the sound of raw >> grunt powerrrrrrrrrrrrrr. All cars should be diesel. My '96 Passat tdi >> was >> remarkably quiet and vibration free. Awesome engines--just clean out the >> intake manifold, or better yet, trick the 'puter into defeating the EGR >> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans < >> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> this is more 'personal opinion' .,..........but noise and vibration are >>> two >>> of the numerous downsides to diesels. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >> Casey >> '87 300TD >> '94 100CSQ Avant >> '89 Bluestar >> > >

-- Casey '87 300TD '94 100CSQ Avant '89 Bluestar


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