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Date:         Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:01:32 -0500
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: More on TR 16x7 steelies
Comments: To: David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
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I agree that those wheels are designed for the 12mm bolts. Also, it is a hub-centric wheel meaning the hub should be carrying most of the shear load and the lugs should is there mostly to hold the wheel to the hub, not to take the shear loads.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of David Marshall Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 10:39 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: More on TR 16x7 steelies

The Mefro wheels that I used to sell at Fast Forward Automotive were TüV approved in Germany ONLY if sold with the correct fasteners. A lot of people bitched that I sold these wheels only with new fasteners while others didn't - 'cause it added a lot to the price. I don't want to see anyone hurt - so I made no exceptions to that.

The BEST thing to do here is get a one of those pencils that you can write on glass with and color the entire ball seating area on the wheel and then tighten the fastener reasonable tight onto the wheel. If it removes all of the pencil material it is a correct seat - if it leaves some behind (especially deeper in the hole) then it is the wrong profile.

$0.50 says if it is an MB wheel it is for a 12mm ball profile and not the 14mm ball profile that the Vanagon uses.

David Marshall VW Adventure Driver and BMW Adventure Rider

http://www.hasenwerk.ca

On Wed, December 24, 2008 07:02, Mike S wrote: > > At 09:39 AM 12/24/2008, mdrillock wrote... >>The ball seat is not quite the same as stock 14" steel Vanagon wheels. >>The diameter of the hole is the same. The diameter of the ball they >>are >>machined to fit is smaller. There is a guy on Samba selling hybrid >>nuts >>needed to properly match the diameter of the smaller ball with the >>larger diameter lug hole. > > Maybe. I've seen those references on thesamba, too. But, they're not a > reference to these specific wheels, and the stock bolts seem to seat to > the same depth as on the stock wheels. In any case, it would be much > more critical for alloy wheels, where the entire seat is present, not > just a formed "lip" as on steel wheels. >


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