VANAGON archives -- December 2008, week 4 (#175)

Date:         Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:14:12 -0500
Reply-To:     Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@VERIZON.NET>
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From:         Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@VERIZON.NET>
Subject:      Re: changing pop-top canvas
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I agree with what your saying anything can be done and can be built any way you dream up. I know why they built it the way vw did it and I know they way
your saying for the tent. Either way it all works. Still most pop ups do make the screen on the outside with a flap on the inner as do most all trailer style set
ups. Not a biggie it is just what is done and how it is done. I dont make them other then for boats which is a total custom gig everytime which makes it cost
effective to make it. I build what they want. The fancier they want it the fancier I make it. its always a one off set up.
not a biggie
as for the side tents Ive got a used 70s era tent that is really nice but probably not what your looking for. Ive got a tent I use for camping and another 70s
era tent that is for my bay. Ive not set up the spare one in some time not sure if it needs anything but I think it is prestine. Not sure if I will sell it or not.
I like the Just kampers tents just not the way they attach to the Vehicle. they are lighter and more roomy.
C-ya Jonce


>hey there.......
>all good insights, and it's Your Thing of course........
>as a professional,
>but...........when the screen is on the inside, you do not go outside to
>open or close the outer flap.

>You just unzip the screen, then zip up, or unzip, the otter weather shield
>flap.
>Just look at ANY modern high quality mountaineering or back packing tent.

>The system I'm talking about is fine. And since you don't need the screen
>often......it's nice when it can just be tied aside or out of the way.

>Actually, it's exactly like a westy front screen and flap are arranged, but
>in reverse order.  And like the stock system, no need to climb up on the
>roof to do whatever is on the outside. All done from inside.
> Full zip flap outside, full zip screen inside - would be perfect.  Easy to
>do, for someone that works on tents and covers and canopies and boat stuff.

>Got any good used Westy tents for sale ?
>btw........if anyone wants to buy an entire Westy top and front portion and
>hardware........I have one for sale.  Southern Oregon.
>Scott

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jonce Fancher" <streetbugs@VERIZON.NET>
>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:58 PM
>Subject: Re: changing pop-top canvas


>> Another is that the flap should come Down and Roll Up. The flap should be
>> on the outside and the screen is mounted permenant not removable in most
>> cases. I do loads of repairs on pop top camper tents and they have all
>> sorts of goofy ways of doing it. But most of the time the screen is on the
>> outside not
>> removable and the flap is internal (or inside the camper) that will flop
>> down when unzipped. same as the vanagon. But on Boats they roll up to
>> expose the
>> screen or have a seperate zip in screen or even zip in privacy for the
>> real High end. Its all available and can be done but cost is always an
>> issue. Also with
>> having a permenant screen and the flap on the outside you need to go out
>> side to zip up or down. not an easy task in the rain on the roof of a
>> vanagon. It
>> would be nice if the privacy portion was on the outside but you would have
>> to pull the screen every time. Either way you look at it, it is a pain.
>> all in the
>> persuit of a camping trip.
>> C-ya Jonce
>>
>>>It would be nice if repaired screens could be put on the inside, rather
>>>than
>>>the outside as original.
>>>The white screen, mounted on the outside......is bound to deteriorate
>>>pretty
>>>easily............because..........it gets wet at night from moisture and
>>>dew ( unless in the desert or something ) .........then sunlight hits it
>>>...........that's how you make drift wood - alternate moisture at night,
>>>sunlight in the daytime.
>>
>>>Check out any serious mountaineering tent, the screen is always on the
>>>inside, the coated outer 'weathershield' is on the outside. As if that is
>>>so
>>>hard to figure out !
>>>lol,
>>>Scott
>>
>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Jonce Fancher" <streetbugs@VERIZON.NET>
>>>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:44 PM
>>>Subject: Re: changing pop-top canvas
>>
>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> Pending what is wrong with your canvas if it is just time to replace
>>>> then
>>>> replace by all means but if the screen is bad just replace the screen
>>>> only. Save some
>>>> coin for the next camping trip.
>>>> http://fanchers.com/223/Screen%20Replacement.htm
>>>> Im also working on a bad zip and Bad screen gig as well. May also put
>>>> together a side screen add on. Not sure at that point if it would be
>>>> cheaper to
>>>> replace. But if the canvas is in good shape it would be a Upgrade is all
>>>> not a replacement. All in good fun.
>>>> C-ya Jonce
>>>>
>>>>>Here's an article that may help:  http://www.limbobus.org/poptop.htm
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: dj <djct2@YAHOO.COM>
>>>>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>>Sent: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:21 pm
>>>>>Subject: changing pop-top canvas
>>>>
>>>>>Hi, I am thinking of changing my pop top canvas, 84 Vanagon.  I could
>>>>>use
>>>>>all the help and advice I could get.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jonce Fancher
>>>>
>>>> 56 Single Cab
>>>> 66 Sunroof Bug
>>>> 66 Variant Squareback
>>>> 66 Porsche 912
>>>> 71 Sunroof Bus
>>>> 84 Vanagon "Godfried" 24k Original Miles
>>>> 85 Vanagon Westi Zetec 2.0L DOHC
>>>> 2003 10 Passenger Sprinter
>>>>
>>>> Fancher's Upholstery Inc. -  www.fanchers.com
>>>> Not-A-VW Club - http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jaransont3/notavwclub/
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>>
>>
>>
>> Jonce Fancher
>>
>> 56 Single Cab
>> 66 Sunroof Bug
>> 66 Variant Squareback
>> 66 Porsche 912
>> 71 Sunroof Bus
>> 84 Vanagon "Godfried" 24k Original Miles
>> 85 Vanagon Westi Zetec 2.0L DOHC
>> 2003 10 Passenger Sprinter
>>
>> Fancher's Upholstery Inc. -  www.fanchers.com
>> Not-A-VW Club - http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jaransont3/notavwclub/
>> Buses by the Beach - http://www.busesbythebeach.com/
>> Full Moon Bus Club - http://www.fullmoonbusclub.com/news.php



Jonce Fancher

56 Single Cab
66 Sunroof Bug
66 Variant Squareback
66 Porsche 912
71 Sunroof Bus
84 Vanagon "Godfried" 24k Original Miles
85 Vanagon Westi Zetec 2.0L DOHC
2003 10 Passenger Sprinter

Fancher's Upholstery Inc. -  www.fanchers.com
Not-A-VW Club - http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jaransont3/notavwclub/
Buses by the Beach - http://www.busesbythebeach.com/
Full Moon Bus Club - http://www.fullmoonbusclub.com/news.php

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