Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:47:23 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: More on TR 16x7 steelies
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true, true.........but many vanagons are running around centered on just
their lug bolts or nuts, without apparent harm.
Even the stock 14 inch steelies are not hub centric.....( I just looked at
one )
they're lug bolt/nut centric.
I really like REAL vanagon wheels, ( wheels actually MADE for vanagons ) and
was/am about to go for a set of these 16's .........the ball seat radius
thing being different bothers me, though the right lug bolts or nuts are
avaiable............and too bad they're 17 mm instead of 19mm hex head
wheel mounting bolts.
you might apprecaate late 50's era Citroen wheels.........a hex hub, with
one center bolt . Now 'that' is hubcentric.
scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: More on TR 16x7 steelies
>I agree that those wheels are designed for the 12mm bolts. Also, it is a
> hub-centric wheel meaning the hub should be carrying most of the shear
> load and the lugs should is there mostly to hold the wheel to the hub, not
> to take the shear loads.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> David Marshall
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 10:39 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: More on TR 16x7 steelies
>
> The Mefro wheels that I used to sell at Fast Forward Automotive were
> TüV approved in Germany ONLY if sold with the correct
> fasteners. A lot of people bitched that I sold these wheels only
> with new fasteners while others didn't - 'cause it added a lot to the
> price. I don't want to see anyone hurt - so I made no exceptions to
> that.
>
> The BEST thing to do here is get a one of those pencils
> that you can write on glass with and color the entire ball seating area on
> the wheel and then tighten the fastener reasonable tight onto the
> wheel. If it removes all of the pencil material it is a correct seat
> - if it leaves some behind (especially deeper in the hole) then it is the
> wrong profile.
>
> $0.50 says if it is an MB wheel it is for a 12mm
> ball profile and not the 14mm ball profile that the Vanagon uses.
>
> David Marshall
> VW Adventure Driver and BMW Adventure Rider
>
>
> http://www.hasenwerk.ca
>
> On Wed, December 24, 2008 07:02,
> Mike S wrote:
>>
>> At 09:39 AM 12/24/2008, mdrillock
> wrote...
>>>The ball seat is not quite the same as stock
> 14" steel Vanagon wheels.
>>>The diameter of the hole is
> the same. The diameter of the ball they
>>>are
>>>machined to fit is smaller. There is a guy on Samba selling
> hybrid
>>>nuts
>>>needed to properly match the
> diameter of the smaller ball with the
>>>larger diameter lug
> hole.
>>
>> Maybe. I've seen those references on thesamba,
> too. But, they're not a
>> reference to these specific wheels, and
> the stock bolts seem to seat to
>> the same depth as on the stock
> wheels. In any case, it would be much
>> more critical for alloy
> wheels, where the entire seat is present, not
>> just a formed
> "lip" as on steel wheels.
>>
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