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Date:         Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:58:32 -0500
Reply-To:     Jonathan Farrugia <jfarrugi@UMICH.EDU>
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From:         Jonathan Farrugia <jfarrugi@UMICH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Alas...A Good Moderator is Hard to find or Vice Versa
Comments: To: aatransaxle <daryl@AATRANSAXLE.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <23B3C61902D142EFA7A49965DDAD0D20@daryl01>
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i have to agree with Daryl on this matter i've been on and off the list since about 1998. a while back when the post that started the 'good old days' thread came across the list and said that there are only some 800 members i was surprised and not surprised.

i was surprised that membership had dropped that low, however having been back on the list for several months now it had seemed to me like technical content had given way to alot of verbal masturbation. i had wondered if many of the good technical posters were just keeping quite and letting the other talk until their hearts content. however with that low membership number it obvious that the list is seeing a loss of people.

if you search the archives you will find a post that Mark Drillock made some years back about the changing demographic of vanagon owners. i still think that email is an interesting read.

one can also read the nytimes articles about this very email list and see how well what they are experiencing today stacks up to what was described in that article. in general i hate message boards so i remain here and not somewhere else.


On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, aatransaxle wrote:

> Seems to me that not that long ago there were just over 1000 subscribers to > this list. > Daryl of AA Transaxle > (425) 788-4070 > > 86 Syncro Westy > Zetec in the trunk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris S" <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:39 AM > Subject: Re: Alas...A Good Moderator is Hard to find or Vice Versa > > >> As relevant Vanagon content dwindles so will number of list >> subscribers. We are at risk of turning the Vanagon list into the >> Van-a-gone list. That would be unfortunate since the level of >> technical knowledge here is a bit higher than certain alternative >> forums. >> >> On 1/11/09, Michael Sullivan <> wrote: >>> Sorry to post this comment as I am a proponent of free speech, BUT it >>> seems >>> that there are no restraints to this list lately in regards to off-topic >>> posts and continuation of said posts after Fryday. I feel like my delete >>> key >>> is getting worn out. I know that I have had a couple of previous >>> off-topic >>> posts, but this is getting ridiculous. All off-topic posts should be >>> pmailed or chat!. Nothing else positive to say. Sincerely, >>> >>> BTW-Little closing quotes are reallllly annoying. >>> >>> -- >>> Michael in San Antonio >>> 91GL AT 'Gringo' >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> Chris S. >> Disclaimer: "Death and serious injury may occur" >> >> >> >> >> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor ( >> Database version: 5.11520 >> > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor ( > Database version: 5.11520 > > > >

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