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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:09:13 -0800
Reply-To:     Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Vanagon List Moderator
Comments: To: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <ccafde090901140116j3800b2e7lc448badea8c780e6@mail.gmail.com>
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Dear Potent Elect

What a good idea ... Ben T is likely as good as any other person who is willing to step up and attempt to take on the ethereal position of moderator ... hmmm well ... there are many good things about this ... the individual and personal not-with-standing ...

1. Does the list have a charter or constitution ... (a list of ideas or regulations or guidelines that govern the decisions of the moderator)

2. Is there a clear guide to what can cause moderator to sanction or kick a person ...

3. who moderates the moderator

4. does the sanctioned or penalized have any place to turn for regress or appeal

6. how does the list terminate a moderator if they have become too immoderate

7. How long does a moderator moderate for 5 years .. till they resign (in disgust)

Voting is easy once some of those core issues are addressed .. simply create a google web page ... install a vote button with the following questions

1. Should the List be moderated .. Yes .. No

If no then end of discussion

If yes then

Vote for ...

Person 1

Person 2

Person 3

Voting ends on March 17 to give all a chance to vote who may be away on life or business

March 18 all hail the new Chief (May He Live Forever)

Good luck Ben T

yours

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:16 AM, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Sorry to post this comment as I am a proponent of free speech, BUT it > seems > > that there are no restraints to this list lately in regards to off-topic > > posts and continuation of said posts after Fryday. I feel like my delete > > key > > is getting worn out. I know that I have had a couple of previous > off-topic > > posts, but this is getting ridiculous. All off-topic posts should be > > pmailed or chat!. Nothing else positive to say. Sincerely, > > > > BTW-Little closing quotes are reallllly annoying. > > > > -- > > Michael in San Antonio > > 91GL AT 'Gringo' > > > > > I volunteered to try my hand as List moderator. Like many folks' keyboards, > the recent rash of unbriddled off-topic discussions was been wearing out my > delete key. I believe that in order for the List to continue to survive as > a > true community, some sort of moderation needs to be put in effect. > Otherwise, I suspect the greater portion of the membership will resort to > lurking if not dropping their membership altogether. That would be an > excusable shame. > > Jim said I should bring this up to the List in general. I don't know how > one > could count votes. Besides, most folks probably will not likely participate > in the process. As far as I can recall, the choice for moderator has always > been decided by the people with the hardware (for the listserver). Now it's > apparently a totally different deal. Jim was able to moderate remotely. The > equipment is still at TomC's place and I think there is still some > connection to Coyote's vanagon.com site. > > Anyway, please share our thoughts about this. Pmail if necessary. > > > BenT > (flame suit on) >

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