Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:59:40 -0500
Reply-To: Doug Alcock <doug.alcock@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Doug Alcock <doug.alcock@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Vanagon List Moderator-let's get things underway!
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I agree --- Jim was doing a great job --- and he was actually doing it; much
harder than sitting on the sidelines and thinking about how things could be.
Jim -- why not appoint BenT as your deputy for awhile and then share duties
etc when you're feeling less abused.
Attempts at forming some sort of consitution etc are doomed to create miles
of spam to little effect --- I think of the bandwidth spent on list stickers
a few years ago --- sheesh :-)
Cheers,
Doug
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:35 PM, mdrillock <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote:
> I concur wholeheartedly. Jim, if the job is getting you down, appoint a
> couple of deputies to take over for a little while. Take a break and sit
> back. If it turns out ok you can always let it ride. I'm sorry your
> efforts were dissed recently by folks who should have known better. I
> understand that we all go through changes and sometimes want to turn to
> other paths. Perhaps that is the destiny of the list even. I hope not,
> as if it changes very much a lot will likely be lost. In any case,
> thanks for your efforts here over the years.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> David Kao wrote:
>
>> Jim:
>>
>> In my opinion, you have done a great job so far as the moderator.
>> It is a great sacrifice of your time to do this job for us. I have no
>> doubt of your enthusiasm of Vanagons. You are the right person for the
>> job.
>>
>> I don't have the authority but if I do your resignation is denied.
>> I hope there are many others to join me to ask you to stay and remain
>> as the moderator of this list.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> David
>>
>> --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Jim Arnott <jrasite@EONI.COM> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Jim Arnott <jrasite@EONI.COM>
>>> Subject: Re: Vanagon List Moderator-let's get things underway!
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 8:49 PM
>>> On Jan 14, 2009, at 6:10 PM, David Beierl wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Which raises a question I alluded vaguely to earlier
>>>>
>>>> as being at the
>>>
>>> very heart of this discussion -- who, in the economic
>>>>
>>>> sense, actually
>>>
>>> *owns* the list? Who owns the hardware? Who keeps
>>>>
>>>> the purse? I
>>>
>>> rather think it's time for a small group of
>>>>
>>>> interested parties to
>>>
>>> have some serious discussion about this with Coyote
>>>>
>>>> and Tom. And
>>>
>>> likely sign some papers at some point.
>>>>
>>>> "The list" is 'literally' owned by the
>>> listmembers.
>>> The current 'logical owners' are Tom Carrington and
>>> myself.
>>> The domain vanagon.com is registered to Ron (Coyote)
>>> Lussier.
>>> The server belongs to "the list." (It was
>>> purchased with donations
>>> from the listmembers in 2001.)
>>> There is no 'purse.' TomC has donated the pipe.
>>> TomC has donated the
>>> maintenance.
>>> And what papers would you like to sign? Are we going to
>>> incorporate?
>>> 501(c)(3)? Cool! That implies an income! Can I have a
>>> salary now?
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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