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Date:         Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:18:17 -0500
Reply-To:     pickle vanagon <greenvanagon@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         pickle vanagon <greenvanagon@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Vanagon List Moderator-let's get things underway!
Comments: To: joel walker <uncajoel@bellsouth.net>
In-Reply-To:  <ACF530245FE94923BF624903CA6E1C33@gp207joel>
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Joel, if I read you right, I totally agree. Conversations don't need to be technical, but should generally be about vanagons. Friday is a day when restrictions are relaxed a bit and conversations get a little bit more off-topic. I for one don't want to participate in a technical-discussion only list. I don't think we're really in disagreement.

But people are using the vanagon list as a substitute for google Got a virus? Email the vanagon list. Have a problem with popups? email the vanagon list. Know someone whoes charity needs promoting? Email the vanagon list. Its gotten kind of out of control. And there's no reason for it. Getting an email about computer problems doesn't foster a sense of vanagon community, and its not a very good way to find out how to fix your computer problems (there are much better ways!). I'm not arguing that all posts need to be technical, and say something that has never been said before. (It is pretty much all in the archives, anyways.) I'm saying the list is about vanagons, and posts about *completely unrelated* topics have no place here.

-Wes

> it's been a small cul-de-sac community of people. and people don't > always sit around, talking over coffee and beer, about tech things. > and some 'tech things' aren't really tech things ... do you like the > look of the round headlights versus the 86-91 rectangular ones? South > African headlights versus the other two types? are white-wall tires > really only for old american cars? which beer goes best after > repacking your cv joints? :) > ... > > the Frydaye Follies are sort of a release valve for the rest of the > week ... like Friday afternoons or "casual fridays" at work ... > getting together at the nearby pub/bar/whatever for a beer with your > co-workers after a long week of putting up with the boss (in our case, > a much-discussed administrator/moderator) ... a day when tech talk > doesn't have to be so high on the must-do list. > ... > this is why i must strongly put in my own personal protest at making > THIS list a totally tech list, without any regard for the community > conversations most of us have enjoyed throughout the years. we've > developed friendships (albetit over email, but some of us have > actually MET other vanagon owners in person), and i don't think you > get much of that spread around the community if you go tech-only. i've > seen this happen on other lists, particularly the Type2 list, and i > don't like it ... it reminds me waay to much of those tech committe > meetings ... yes, they are necessary. yes, they contribute to the > running of the world we work in and live in. but no ... they should > NOT be the end-all be-all to life or this list. > > > > unca joel >


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