Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:55:56 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Head gasket leaking. Bummer.
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I didn't see the pics.
small oil cooler coolant hoses ?
I frequently see those with original crimp style hose clamps.
They really made good hoses.
Only a few of them are prone to failure.
but he sure could have high miles on his head gaskets.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zolly" <zolo@foxinternet.net>
To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>;
<vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Head gasket leaking. Bummer.
>I looked over his pictures and seen the original fittings on the small
>hoses, the odometer was on 215k. So, it looks like it has never been out
>yet. Good going though.
> Z
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
> To: "Zolly" <zolo@foxinternet.net>; <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 2:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: Head gasket leaking. Bummer.
>
>
>> sure..........take care of it for a while.
>> If he's going to say his head gaskets are only, say a year old.......
>> then maybe it's just a 'temporary cold wather' issue,
>> but typically.........the head gaskets and heads have thousands of miles,
>> and many years on them.......
>> and are pretty tired anyway.........Bars Leak might buy some time.......
>> but it's likely the real repair is to do the head gaskets.
>>
>> And it's not like correctly working, and not-too-old head gaskets, leak
>> in cold temps normally. They don't.
>>
>> it IS a mickey mounse design.......sure, but I don't think they would
>> have let the design out to the public ( hopefuly they wouldn't do that )
>> knowing that at say, 10 below zero F, the outer water gaskets would leak
>> 'normally.'
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Zolly" <zolo@foxinternet.net>
>> To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>;
>> <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 2:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: Re: Head gasket leaking. Bummer.
>>
>>
>>> It is possible, that the very cold weather makes the leak happen for
>>> him. The anti leak thing would take care of it.
>>> Zoltan
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 11:44 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Head gasket leaking. Bummer.
>>>
>>>
>>>> FWIW........my recomendendation , and Bars Leak is the only
>>>> leak-stopping
>>>> additive I use.......
>>>> throw it in the pressure bottle with a cold engine, then drive for 20
>>>> minutes until warmed up. That's it.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think it gets into the heater circuits too much myself.
>>>>
>>>> Heck......there are vans where I WANT it to get to the heater
>>>> circuit......and it won't go there much at all.
>>>> Not unless I undo a heater circuit hose.
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "B Feddish" <bfeddish@NETREACH.NET>
>>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:52 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Head gasket leaking. Bummer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This topic comes up allot and there allot of list members are really
>>>>> split
>>>>> on its use. Some swear by it and some curse at it. What I have
>>>>> gathered
>>>>> though is you need to add it to just the coolant surrounding the
>>>>> engine
>>>>> because, yes, it has been known to clog heaters. In the archives
>>>>> somewhere
>>>>> (or someone can chime in) are instructions for adding the Bars stuff
>>>>> to
>>>>> the
>>>>> coolant and doing so while the engine is cold up until the thermostat
>>>>> opens
>>>>> and allows the coolant to flow through the rest of the vehicle, which
>>>>> is
>>>>> what you don't want.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bryan
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> Mark A Kippert
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 12:37 PM
>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Head gasket leaking. Bummer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had a few off-list recommendations to use Bars stop leak as it
>>>>> worked well with their particular leak. I'm guessing this stuff will
>>>>> work OK without plugging up heater cores etc? I've purchased a bottle
>>>>> but haven't put it in yet. If I can stop the leak for a while it will
>>>>> give me time to get my parts van home and check out the engine.
>>>>>
>>>>> The guy I bought it from had rebuilt the engine (it has under 200
>>>>> miles on it) but had problems with the lifters not pumping up. If I
>>>>> can resolve that I may just do an engine swap. He indicated that he
>>>>> didn't do anything with the original oil pump. Maybe it's not putting
>>>>> out enough pressure for the rebuilt components.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark K
>>>>> 1986 GL 2WD
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 22, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Mark A Kippert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it time to rebuild?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts on how long this will take to become a full blown
>>>>>> gusher?
>>>>>> Will it? Should I stop driving it? As far as I can tell no coolant is
>>>>>> getting into the cylinder as there is no increase in white vapor in
>>>>>> the exhaust (nor the sick sweet smell).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm really bummed as I had hope to go to my first Vanagon outing in
>>>>>> February, the Busses by the Beach BRR. I'm afraid to leave indy now,
>>>>>> let alone drive two and a half hours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark K
>>>>>> 1986 GL 2WD
>>>>
>>>>
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