Date:         Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:23:33 -0500
Reply-To:     Mark A Kippert <vanagon@KIPPERT.COM>
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From:         Mark A Kippert <vanagon@KIPPERT.COM>
Subject:      Quieting noisy lifters (was: Head gasket leaking. Bummer)
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Would replacing the oil pump help (The engine had 134k prior to
rebuild)? Or possibly a higher volume pump (if one exists)? As I
mentioned he didn't do anything with the pump. How about replacing the
lifters themselves?

One note, he used telescoping push rod tubes in the rebuild so I won't
have to pull the heads for any reason.

Mark K
1986 GL 2WD

On Jan 24, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:

> old used lifters can take a long time to get permanently quiet again.
> The adjustment at the rocker arm screw has to be right of course.
> ( an engine guy I met recently said 'half turn after
> contact'.......not 1.5
> turns or whatever the book says, fwiw )
>
> treat them with 'hydraulic lifter cleaner' ...an oil additive.
> And no kidding, I've had a re-done used waterboxer engine take 6
> months of
> regular use before noisy hyd lifter syndrome is totally gone.
>
> I have also seen this some.........they'll be quiet............and
> then one
> time when you drive it........they're noisy ....
> next time you drive it,........all is quiet again.
> But generally, if you're keeping the old lifters in service, and
> they're
> noisy.........
> make sure rocker arms and push rods and adjustment is
> correct........then
> it's just treat the oil with an additive, use good oil.......
> and eventually they will get quiet again permanently.
>
> one warning...........very short periods of operation, like to move
> a car 50
> feet and then shut it off.
> Do that several times...........and it can make the lifters noisy
> again for
> quite a while. On subaru engines in vanagons too.
> scott
> turbovans
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark A Kippert" <vanagon@KIPPERT.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Head gasket leaking. Bummer.
>
>
>> I've had a few off-list recommendations to use Bars stop leak as it
>> worked well with their particular leak. I'm guessing this stuff will
>> work OK without plugging up heater cores etc? I've purchased a bottle
>> but haven't put it in yet. If I can stop the leak for a while it will
>> give me time to get my parts van home and check out the engine.
>>
>> The guy I bought it from had rebuilt the engine (it has under 200
>> miles on it) but had problems with the lifters not pumping up. If I
>> can resolve that I may just do an engine swap. He indicated that he
>> didn't do anything with the original oil pump. Maybe it's not putting
>> out enough pressure for the rebuilt components.
>>
>> Mark K
>> 1986 GL 2WD
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Mark A Kippert wrote:
>>