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Date:         Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:55:56 -0800
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Head gasket leaking. Bummer.
Comments: To: Zolly <zolo@foxinternet.net>
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I didn't see the pics. small oil cooler coolant hoses ? I frequently see those with original crimp style hose clamps.

They really made good hoses. Only a few of them are prone to failure. but he sure could have high miles on his head gaskets.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Zolly" <zolo@foxinternet.net> To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>; <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: Re: Re: Head gasket leaking. Bummer.

>I looked over his pictures and seen the original fittings on the small >hoses, the odometer was on 215k. So, it looks like it has never been out >yet. Good going though. > Z > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> > To: "Zolly" <zolo@foxinternet.net>; <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 2:41 PM > Subject: Re: Re: Head gasket leaking. Bummer. > > >> sure..........take care of it for a while. >> If he's going to say his head gaskets are only, say a year old....... >> then maybe it's just a 'temporary cold wather' issue, >> but typically.........the head gaskets and heads have thousands of miles, >> and many years on them....... >> and are pretty tired anyway.........Bars Leak might buy some time....... >> but it's likely the real repair is to do the head gaskets. >> >> And it's not like correctly working, and not-too-old head gaskets, leak >> in cold temps normally. They don't. >> >> it IS a mickey mounse design.......sure, but I don't think they would >> have let the design out to the public ( hopefuly they wouldn't do that ) >> knowing that at say, 10 below zero F, the outer water gaskets would leak >> 'normally.' >> Scott >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Zolly" <zolo@foxinternet.net> >> To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>; >> <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 2:14 PM >> Subject: Re: Re: Head gasket leaking. Bummer. >> >> >>> It is possible, that the very cold weather makes the leak happen for >>> him. The anti leak thing would take care of it. >>> Zoltan >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> >>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 11:44 AM >>> Subject: Re: Head gasket leaking. Bummer. >>> >>> >>>> FWIW........my recomendendation , and Bars Leak is the only >>>> leak-stopping >>>> additive I use....... >>>> throw it in the pressure bottle with a cold engine, then drive for 20 >>>> minutes until warmed up. That's it. >>>> >>>> I don't think it gets into the heater circuits too much myself. >>>> >>>> Heck......there are vans where I WANT it to get to the heater >>>> circuit......and it won't go there much at all. >>>> Not unless I undo a heater circuit hose. >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "B Feddish" <bfeddish@NETREACH.NET> >>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:52 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Head gasket leaking. Bummer. >>>> >>>> >>>>> This topic comes up allot and there allot of list members are really >>>>> split >>>>> on its use. Some swear by it and some curse at it. What I have >>>>> gathered >>>>> though is you need to add it to just the coolant surrounding the >>>>> engine >>>>> because, yes, it has been known to clog heaters. In the archives >>>>> somewhere >>>>> (or someone can chime in) are instructions for adding the Bars stuff >>>>> to >>>>> the >>>>> coolant and doing so while the engine is cold up until the thermostat >>>>> opens >>>>> and allows the coolant to flow through the rest of the vehicle, which >>>>> is >>>>> what you don't want. >>>>> >>>>> Bryan >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >>>>> Behalf Of >>>>> Mark A Kippert >>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 12:37 PM >>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>> Subject: Re: Head gasket leaking. Bummer. >>>>> >>>>> I've had a few off-list recommendations to use Bars stop leak as it >>>>> worked well with their particular leak. I'm guessing this stuff will >>>>> work OK without plugging up heater cores etc? I've purchased a bottle >>>>> but haven't put it in yet. If I can stop the leak for a while it will >>>>> give me time to get my parts van home and check out the engine. >>>>> >>>>> The guy I bought it from had rebuilt the engine (it has under 200 >>>>> miles on it) but had problems with the lifters not pumping up. If I >>>>> can resolve that I may just do an engine swap. He indicated that he >>>>> didn't do anything with the original oil pump. Maybe it's not putting >>>>> out enough pressure for the rebuilt components. >>>>> >>>>> Mark K >>>>> 1986 GL 2WD >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 22, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Mark A Kippert wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> snip >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it time to rebuild? >>>>>> >>>>>> Any thoughts on how long this will take to become a full blown >>>>>> gusher? >>>>>> Will it? Should I stop driving it? As far as I can tell no coolant is >>>>>> getting into the cylinder as there is no increase in white vapor in >>>>>> the exhaust (nor the sick sweet smell). >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm really bummed as I had hope to go to my first Vanagon outing in >>>>>> February, the Busses by the Beach BRR. I'm afraid to leave indy now, >>>>>> let alone drive two and a half hours. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark K >>>>>> 1986 GL 2WD >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1912 - >>>> Release Date: 1/23/2009 6:54 PM >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1912 - >> Release Date: 1/23/2009 6:54 PM >> >> >


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