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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:09:58 +0100
Reply-To:     Raimund Feussner <ray@V6BUS.DE>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Raimund Feussner <ray@V6BUS.DE>
Subject:      Re: The real story about the invention of the WBX?
Comments: To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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Just some comments...

Am 11.02.2009 22:40, Scott Daniel - Turbovans schrieb: > He spent.......you know........about 5 grand on that conversion, > perhaps a > bit more. Twice what the westy he put it in cost. >

Okay, I donbīt know the usual conversion costs for an AAZ in the US, but I would say this is a really HUGE price. In Germany, AAZ conversion are quite common, the people are pleased with them (in comparison to the stock diesel). Engine sell at approx. 1000US-Dollar. Adding the conversion costs gives a total of max 3000Dollar (if a diesel Vanagon gets converted, gasoline maybe plus 500). If you can do this conversion by yourself, its max 2000Dollar.

> got about a good year and a half out of it. > The engine 'overheated' or somehow failed with a rental customer > driving it. > I asked him about it just last night even ...........the head is > completey > trashed. > he put a waterboxer back in.

Okay, the customer might even break the WBX. Maybe in th US the costs might be lower, WBX can be bought at every street corner, I guess. I think you canīt blame the AAZ failing. A stock Diesel (JX) might have failed, too.

> > diesel engines can do harm to themselvses in ways that gasoline engines > can't ........like a bad injector causing damage in a combustion chamber.

I wrecked two gasoline engines with a stuck-open injector. Tough crap...

> > they are an interferece design and have a critical timing belt.....

The timing belt does indeed cause more damage if it fails. But nevertheless, gasoline engines ghet damaged, too, by a failing belt (WBX excluded). If the Vanagon had an inline 4 engine, the damage would be huge, too.

> > the subaru diesel may have some 'not vanagon' friendly > characteristics.........like CAN BUS electronics, > and a too low turbo location for syncro's and off road use.........but > turbo's can be moved too. They're only 2 liters also. >

CAN would be a problem in the Vanagon. Needs a lot of adapting and implementing of other electric stuff. Ok, I did that, but only because I wanted to. I would have never installed the V6 TDI if I had not the chance to implement the instrument cluster, etc.

Diesel have their disadvantages, but gas engine have theirs, too.

Nevermind

Regards Raimund


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