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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:09:02 -0800
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Van died on me!
Comments: To: Slloth <slloth@COMCAST.NET>
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I don't think they like doing it at the DMV...... but ownership of a car and having it registered for street use are two different things...... and a person can take the paperwork to the DMV and get the title in their name....... all legally, without a smog check....... they just can't register it, or get tags for it, until it's smogged.

after all, suppose you're a jillionaair and you just want to own a car and keep it in your stable of cars and never drive it........ there is no law that says you MUST register cars and drive them on the street. So you can OWN a car, even if it's not registered.

Which means someone could buy it, put it in their name......... and register it later when they get an engine in it, and get it smogged. ( to be fully legal.........to drive it somewhere to get it smog checked........they would have to have insurance on it, and show 'proof of insurance' to show that, and then get a moving permit for a few days from the DMV or Auto Club, to drive it to a smog check. - but it's sellable . )

I wouldn't trust calling the DMV to ask about it, myself..........they might tell you you can't sell it until you get it smogged....... which I will bet is not *actually* true. I've probably done it myself in Ca........had a car transferred to my ownership and title in my name..........but not registering it now, and no smog check now either, thank you. As long as the van is registered in CA now.......no problem for selling it with blown engine. ( remember.......the people working a the DMV work for YOU..........don't let them give you a run around.)

*Always* go to the Auto Club for your DMV needs ( not driver's license though ) ...... they are 10 times nicer to deal with, and there are usually only 2 other customers there , not 50 or 200.

and if one owns a Vangaon ......then one should have CSAA -aka 'auto club' . and ........CSAA does not mind if you call up to join at the same time as needing a tow or rescue.

the lower level of service only gets you a 5 mile tow I think. After 5 miles you have to pay extra. or maybe a friend with a CSAA membership can have a 'road emergency' and get your van towed to where it's going to be worked on .......your house.

Scott

----- Original Message ----- From: "Slloth" <slloth@COMCAST.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:20 PM Subject: Re: Van died on me!

>I don't have too many pictures. Needs body work. Rust. Seem rust. > Needs paint of course. Odometer read 238,000. Interior is fair. > Shifts fine. New fuel lines! Good tires. Good frame. Water cooled. > 1984. White. Newer top (canvas). > > Dead engine... > > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/icExpc_vqToqMEFg26RQVg?feat=directlink > I will try to get pictures some time. My head is still swimming trying > to decide what I'm going to do. I couldn't see it being worth less than > $1500. > > Does anybody know how the smog thing works when you sell a vehicle that > doesn't run? Normally when you sell a vehicle you have to get it > smogged (in CA). I was going to do that soon since my registration was > up in March! > > -- > '84 Westfalia, 1.9L > '73 FJ40, 2F


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