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Date:         Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:53:17 -0800
Reply-To:     David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: [PVC-VW] Re: Replace 1.9 with a 2.1 WBX
In-Reply-To:  <d1ea9acf0902201048q341eaa66t9b3b0f353a1f1cc3@mail.gmail.com>
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It is an extraordinary feeling of satisfaction to own and operate a
Vanagon, especially a Westy, with a strong engine. I have enjoyed
a lot of that from my 84 GL. My 83.5 Westy is a totally different story.
I bought it used and its engine was pretty much ruined at as early as
30k miles young. I bought it with only 60k+ miles on the original engine
for $2500 from a friend who simply wanted to give it up.


Over the years its engine was rebuilt by a dealer once, and by me twice.
The last rebuild was a year ago. It was a successful rebuild eventually.
Now it's the 84 GL's turn to get its engine rebuilt. Then there came the
idea of getting a 2.1 core to rebuild instead of rebuilding the original
1.9. Further more, if I do rebuild a 2.1 I will put it on the 83.5
Westy. Then install the already rebuilt 1.9 from the Westy on the 84.
The extra 500 lbs weight on the Westy will benefit from the extra 10
HP from the 2.1. This was the reason behind my mind for looking for
a 2.1 core. I found one and got it yesterday.


Yes, a strong engine is what I intend to achieve. I am willing to take
a few months to get it done correctly and carefully. I will keep the
list posted of my progress. I will probably ask many questions too.


Thanks.


David




--- On Fri, 2/20/09, craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM> wrote:


> From: craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Re: [PVC-VW] Re: Replace 1.9 with a 2.1 WBX
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 10:48 AM
> I personally feel the strenth of the motor/freshness is what
> really matters.
> I recently had a chance to drive an incredibly strong 2.1,
> much stronger
> than most i've driven. I've also drive a variety of
> 1.9s including my daily
> driver '85 Westfalia (conversion). When i visit Walt
> however, i pull Dunloe
> in 1st gear. : (
>
> If you're taking either one apart, i think a new set of
> rings or a new set
> of pistons/jugs will make a big difference while it's
> apart. Furthermore,
> what matters is the state of condition of the ancillary
> components. If you
> have a weak injector, it doesn't matter if it's a
> 1.9 or a 2.1, it's not
> going to run as well as it could.
>
> Personally, i feel these engines (whether 2.1 or 1.9) are
> perfectly adequite
> when they run well. If you feel you have "no power on
> the highway",
> something is wrong. (Possibly just you're driving style
> though). Even the
> aircooled vanagons run just fine and plenty powerful WHEN
> EVERYTHING WORKS
> RIGHT. Mind you they have different gearing to compensate
> for their
> different powerband/power, but i feel a well working
> aircooled vanagon is
> very comprable power wise to a 1.9.  For a substanital bit
> more power, you
> need to either put some 2.2 jugs in there (or better yet
> buy a
> professionally built up big bore waterboxer) or do a
> conversion. 10hp should
> not make much of a difference, though 20hp would.
>
> -Craig
> '85GL
> I have no idea what' i'm talking about though.....
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Walt Spak
> <b20swalt@city-net.com> wrote:
>
> >   I too have owned many (19-total) Vanagons, both 1.9
> & 2.1.  What i
> > notice is that the 1.9 torque peak seems to be at much
> lower RPM's than the
> > 2.1.  I like the 1.9 better, here in Pittsburgh
> because it is easier to pull
> > hills at low speeds that a 2.1 is.  For instance, I
> can pull Dunloe Street
> > (very steep) up to my warehouse in second gear in a
> 1.9, but need to shift
> > to first in a 2.1.  The 2.1 performance advantage
> seems to be at speeds in
> > excess of about 60 MPH.
> >
> >
> > Walt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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