Date:         Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:06:19 -0800
Reply-To:     Jeffrey Vickers <jeff@VICKERSDESIGN.COM>
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From:         Jeffrey Vickers <jeff@VICKERSDESIGN.COM>
Subject:      Re: Ripoff artists named (TheSamba)
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Andrew,

Sounds more like FedEx's fault than Mr. Tevis. I deal with FedEx all
the time. If they don't have an address in their database - for
whatever reason - they won't ship it. Period. Call them? Good luck!
You'd be asking them to make a change in their database to include the
address in question. I've tried it with no success.

Shipping stuff to third parties and using someone else's PayPal
account sound perilous to me. I'm not surprised at all that this thing
went sideways.

FWIW, Michael Tevis has been fabricating and selling stuff to the
SubieVanagon folks for a while with no complaints. I know someone who
has personally gone to his shop in Chico and, last time I spoke with
him, was planning on doing a conversion with him.

I know you're peeved because you still don't have your stuff but,
IMHO, Mr. Tevis is not a rip off artist preying on Vanagon listees.

Jeff in Marin

On Feb 25, 2009, at 6:55 AM, Automatic digest processor wrote:

> Date:    Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:58:47 +1200
> From:    Andrew Grebneff <goose1047@GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Re: Ripoff artists named (TheSamba)
>
> Tevis' selfrighteous response to my posting on TheSamba, and my reply:
>
> Posted: Yesterday 1:52 pm    Post subject: loss of contact
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> actually, I have the box right here. I went to fedex and they said
> theres no business by that name. this was shortly after being scammed
> on the samba by someone complaining to paypal about non receipt after
> i sent it to the address they asked me to shipped to instead of their
> confirmed address. "Andrew" used his sister in laws paypal account
> from canada to pay for something to be shipped to Los Angeles when hes
> in New Zealand...to a company that doesnt come up on google and fedex
> says isnt there....all with 4 to 5 weeks between his emails.
> how about the dozens of happy customers i've had on the samba and the
> 100's on ebay and other groups? if Andrew can provide a legitimate
> address i can ship to I would be happy to reship the box. also,
> everett, instead of sending me a harrassing email using your alias why
> dont you email me and at least ask me what happened first. ive been on
> the samba for a while and have had many happy customers.
>
> Really? Well, why the hell haven't you sent the parts? You have my
> money (paid by my BROTHER-in-law's account because I refuse to have a
> creditcard). The address was to me c/o Robbie Stevens, Imperial
> Freight, Atlantl... Compton, CA. Google for Atlantl. It comes up just
> fine. I live in NZ. Of course the shipping address is different to the
> "confirmed" address! You are stupid enough to tell the forum that you
> are the crook. How the hell do you expect me to get the parts to NZ
> except by shipping from LA? Happy customers? Really?
> Well, *I'm* not one of those.
>
> Ask you first? I have sent a number of messages, not one in any way
> accusing you of anything... but you wouldn't reply.
>
> If you are honest and have really tried to send the parts, you will
> PHONE FedEx and ask why they can't find a valid address... an
> international container shipper at that! But of course you know that
> I'm not a scammer BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE MY MONEY. How then can *I*
> be the scammer?
>
> Note to vanagon luistees: Tevis calls himself "vwparts" on TheSamba's
> feedback forum.