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Date:         Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:16:40 -0800
Reply-To:     David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
Subject:      Re: HID kit on eBay
Comments: To: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <49AEB4F1.4030609@gmail.com>
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I don't think they care either, but I do, and hence the warning to the list that there *IS* a problem morally and legally with installing HID kits in halogen lamps - basically you no longer comply with DOT / SAE / ECE regs and the lights are illegal.

My Touareg comes with factory HIDs and they are not an issue with on coming drivers - I can certainly tell the cars with the pimped out HID kits as they are dazzling as all get out - annoying and unsafe.

David Marshall VW Adventure Driver and BMW Adventure Rider http://www.hasenwerk.ca

On Wed, March 4, 2009 09:05, Rocket J Squirrel wrote: > >> >> The HID will be *very* fuzz and upset oncoming drivers. > I didn't think that folks with HID headlights cared about that. I mean, > those folk can't be so oblivious that they don't know how frickin' > annoying those lamps are. > > -- > Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott > 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana") > 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano > Bend, OR > KG6RCR >

> > > > On 3/4/2009 7:22 AM David Marshall wrote: >> Opps - you're right - it is 9004 not 9003 like I previously stated. >> >> However I still stand by my recommendation of not to use them in >> low beams - put a halogen and HID in a halogen shell side by side on a >> wall and you will see what I mean. The HID will be *very* fuzz and >> upset oncoming drivers. >> >> David Marshall >> VW Adventure Driver >> and BMW Adventure Rider >> >> http://www.hasenwerk.ca >> >> On >> Wed, March 4, 2009 03:15, Hector Zapata wrote: >> >>> I beg >>> >> to differ. My Vanagon came originally with 9004, not 9003. And I >> >> have >> >>> HIDs and they are great, although I have H4s. Don't worry >>> >> if the vanagon >> >>> is >>> not listed, the kit should fit, the >>> >> connectors are what matter. And get >> >>> the >>> hi/lo kit, >>> >> it's worth the extra money, and if you have the square >> >> headlights, get the driving lights kit as well. >> >>> >> Héctor >> >>> 1990 Carat 'Ursula' w/HIDs >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:25 PM, David Marshall >>> <mailinglist@fastforward.ca>wrote: >>> >>> >> Perhaps sending the item number as opposed to the mega long link that >> >>>> doesn't work. >>>> >>>> There are basically >>>> >> two types of Vanagon lights >> >>>> from 86-92 >>>> >>>> H4 for Europe >>>> 9003 for North America >>>> >>>> As for HID kits in these - DON'T DO IT - at least >>>> >> not on the low >> >>>> beam. The "ball of light" made by >>>> >> a HID kit is larger than >> >>>> the ball of light made by a halogen >>>> >> so it will make a very bright, but >> >>>> not >>>> a >>>> >> crisply focused light as you are used to. If you have a 9003 setup >> >>>> - it will make it just plain suck and everyone will bright >>>> >> you. >> >>>> HID kits on the high beams work pretty >>>> >> good! >> >>>> David >>>> Marshall >>>> VW Adventure Driver and BMW Adventure Rider >>>> >>>> http://www.hasenwerk.ca >>>> >>>> On Tue, >>>> >> March 3, 2009 13:56, Kep >> >>>> Koeppel wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Anyone have any experience with this >>>>> >> kit? Am I correct in assuming these >> >>>>> should also fit >>>>> >> '86-88 >> >>>> vanagon or are the headlights different than >>>> >>>>> '89-'92? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> Thanks >>> >>>> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Volkswagen-Vanagon-89-92-Xenon-Lights-HID-Kit >> >>>> >> -B_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1240Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3 >> >>>> >> a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a8Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem400 >> >> 034060202QQitemZ400034060202QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories >> >> >> >


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