Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:42:32 -0700
Reply-To: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Takes a darn long time for the heater to come up to speed
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I meant the word in its third meaning, second half: a fig newton of the
imagination.
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Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
Bend, OR
KG6RCR
On 3/12/2009 1:25 PM Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
> good discussion Mark.
> re Squirrel's fancy word :
> ( some pertinent thoughts below the definition )
> chi?me?ra
> /k?'m??r?, ka?-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ki-meer-uh, kahy-] Show
> IPA
> -noun, plural -ras. 1. (often initial capital letter) a mythological,
> fire-breathing monster, commonly represented with a lion's head, a goat's
> body, and a serpent's tail.
> 2. any similarly grotesque monster having disparate parts, esp. as
> depicted in decorative art.
> 3. a horrible or unreal creature of the imagination; a vain or idle
> fancy: He is far different from the chimera your fears have made of him.
> 4. Genetics. an organism composed of two or more genetically distinct
> tissues, as an organism that is partly male and partly female, or an
> artificially produced individual having tissues of several species.
>
> Also, chimaera.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Origin:
> 1350-1400; ME chimera < L chimaera < Gk chímaira she-goat; akin to ON gymbr,
> E gimmer ewe-lamb one year (i.e., one winter) old, L hiems winter (see
> hiemal ), Gk cheimn winter
>
>
> Synonyms:
> 3. dream, fantasy, delusion.
>
>
> I really must try out this 110 AC heater unit I have that goes inline in a
> 5/8 heater hose on a vanagon . Would be worth it to plug in my van to have
> decent cockpit heat sooner, not that it's that seriously cold in Souther
> Oregon.
> Where I went to high school in Minot ND.......
> I always noticed how freezing cold it felt in the car , like you expect to
> be a little warm and sheltered just by getting into in a car.....
> And sitting overnight outside at 10 degrees F or whatever, even
> colder.........it always seemed even colder to get in the car when it's been
> sitting, even colder than standing outside properly dressed. btdt.
> scott
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Tuovinen" <mst@AK.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Takes a darn long time for the heater to come up to speed
>
>
>> Oil pan heaters for VW's do exist. There is a different part number for
>> air cooled vs water cooled but either will work on a water boxer. I am
>> not sure if anyone is still making them but I have not looked either. I
>> have one for an air cooled on my daily driver Syncro and use it regularly
>> during the Winter months. If you like I can check the brand and part
>> number when I get home as I have a new spare on the shelf. An oil pan
>> heater is going to help the engine but will not do much for getting warm
>> water to the heater core more quickly as it is designed to heat the oil
>> making the engine easier to start. Heating the coolant also makes the
>> engine easier to start but via slightly different means. Both have their
>> advantages and disadvantages, in extreme cold climates it is common to do
>> both and add a battery blanket. When we prep cars headed North they
>> usually get a pan heater(oil), block heater(coolant), battery blanket, and
>> synthetic lubricants. This is just to make sure
>> the vehicle will start. Getting the occupant warm quickly upon start up
>> is a function of the apparel they are wearing, not the heater. A more
>> expensive option would be a Webasto heater for your cooling system, they
>> make one specifically intended to help warm the interior. Last but not
>> least, you could always move back to California.:<)
>>
>> Mark in AK
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
>> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:04 am
>> Subject: Re: Takes a darn long time for the heater to come up to speed
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>
>>> A kind listee provided a link to this "tank type" engine heater:
>>> http://www.jcwhitney.com/ZEROSTART-TANK-TYPE-ENGINE-
>>> HEATERS/GP_2000837_N_111+10201+600001648_10101.jcw
>>> I'm looking into it. The Mercedes adapter mentioned on the page has a
>>> catalog number that their search tool can't find, dunno if that would be
>>> needed to hook this heater - designed for 5/8'' hose -- to the
>>> Vanagon'sheater hoses or not?
>>>
>>> Speaking of which, what hose would be good to cut to insert this
>>> gadget?It looks like it wants to go into the heater hose loop somewhere,
>>> would it matter whether it goes into the heater send or return hose?
>>> Possibly not. Anyway, if someone has a good idea, the Bentley page and
>>> hose callout would be cool. I'm also looking for the rumored oil pan
>>> heater. It may be a chimera, but there have been mentions of such things.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
>>> 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
>>> 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
>>> Bend, OR
>>> KG6RCR
>>>
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