Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:25:23 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Takes a darn long time for the heater to come up to speed
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good discussion Mark.
re Squirrel's fancy word :
( some pertinent thoughts below the definition )
chi?me?ra
/k?'m??r?, ka?-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ki-meer-uh, kahy-] Show
IPA
-noun, plural -ras. 1. (often initial capital letter) a mythological,
fire-breathing monster, commonly represented with a lion's head, a goat's
body, and a serpent's tail.
2. any similarly grotesque monster having disparate parts, esp. as
depicted in decorative art.
3. a horrible or unreal creature of the imagination; a vain or idle
fancy: He is far different from the chimera your fears have made of him.
4. Genetics. an organism composed of two or more genetically distinct
tissues, as an organism that is partly male and partly female, or an
artificially produced individual having tissues of several species.
Also, chimaera.
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Origin:
1350-1400; ME chimera < L chimaera < Gk chímaira she-goat; akin to ON gymbr,
E gimmer ewe-lamb one year (i.e., one winter) old, L hiems winter (see
hiemal ), Gk cheimn winter
Synonyms:
3. dream, fantasy, delusion.
I really must try out this 110 AC heater unit I have that goes inline in a
5/8 heater hose on a vanagon . Would be worth it to plug in my van to have
decent cockpit heat sooner, not that it's that seriously cold in Souther
Oregon.
Where I went to high school in Minot ND.......
I always noticed how freezing cold it felt in the car , like you expect to
be a little warm and sheltered just by getting into in a car.....
And sitting overnight outside at 10 degrees F or whatever, even
colder.........it always seemed even colder to get in the car when it's been
sitting, even colder than standing outside properly dressed. btdt.
scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Tuovinen" <mst@AK.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: Takes a darn long time for the heater to come up to speed
> Oil pan heaters for VW's do exist. There is a different part number for
> air cooled vs water cooled but either will work on a water boxer. I am
> not sure if anyone is still making them but I have not looked either. I
> have one for an air cooled on my daily driver Syncro and use it regularly
> during the Winter months. If you like I can check the brand and part
> number when I get home as I have a new spare on the shelf. An oil pan
> heater is going to help the engine but will not do much for getting warm
> water to the heater core more quickly as it is designed to heat the oil
> making the engine easier to start. Heating the coolant also makes the
> engine easier to start but via slightly different means. Both have their
> advantages and disadvantages, in extreme cold climates it is common to do
> both and add a battery blanket. When we prep cars headed North they
> usually get a pan heater(oil), block heater(coolant), battery blanket, and
> synthetic lubricants. This is just to make sure
> the vehicle will start. Getting the occupant warm quickly upon start up
> is a function of the apparel they are wearing, not the heater. A more
> expensive option would be a Webasto heater for your cooling system, they
> make one specifically intended to help warm the interior. Last but not
> least, you could always move back to California.:<)
>
> Mark in AK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:04 am
> Subject: Re: Takes a darn long time for the heater to come up to speed
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
>> A kind listee provided a link to this "tank type" engine heater:
>> http://www.jcwhitney.com/ZEROSTART-TANK-TYPE-ENGINE-
>> HEATERS/GP_2000837_N_111+10201+600001648_10101.jcw
>> I'm looking into it. The Mercedes adapter mentioned on the page has a
>> catalog number that their search tool can't find, dunno if that would be
>> needed to hook this heater - designed for 5/8'' hose -- to the
>> Vanagon'sheater hoses or not?
>>
>> Speaking of which, what hose would be good to cut to insert this
>> gadget?It looks like it wants to go into the heater hose loop somewhere,
>> would it matter whether it goes into the heater send or return hose?
>> Possibly not. Anyway, if someone has a good idea, the Bentley page and
>> hose callout would be cool. I'm also looking for the rumored oil pan
>> heater. It may be a chimera, but there have been mentions of such things.
>>
>> --
>> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
>> 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
>> 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
>> Bend, OR
>> KG6RCR
>>
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