Date:         Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:01:38 -0400
Reply-To:     Ian Allan <ian.allan@BMTS.COM>
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From:         Ian Allan <ian.allan@BMTS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Takes a darn long time for heater...
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I copied this about a year ago.

Ian Allan

94 Eurovan Westfalia
86 Syncro
85 Westfalia/Bostig




For general info, and the archives, I want to confirm that the Vanagon
under engine heaters are indeed still available through NAPA.  I picked
up my brand new one just today.  The part number is 605-1500.  The
current price, though, is $77.99 USD.  They had to order it and got it
through Balkamp.

They are made by Pyroil Canada, Ltd., and come with a one year
guarantee.

Mike
Houlton, Maine






>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mark Tuovinen" <mst@AK.NET>
>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Takes a darn long time for the heater to come up to
>>> speed
>>>
>>>
>>>> Oil pan heaters for VW's do exist.  There is a different part
>>>> number
>>>> for
>>>> air cooled vs water cooled but either will work on a water
>>>> boxer.  I am
>>>> not sure if anyone is still making them but I have not looked
>>>> either.  I
>>>> have one for an air cooled on my daily driver Syncro and use it
>>>> regularly
>>>> during the Winter months.  If you like I can check the brand and
>>>> part
>>>> number when I get home as I have a new spare on the shelf.  An
>>>> oil pan
>>>> heater is going to help the engine but will not do much for getting
>>>> warm
>>>> water to the heater core more quickly as it is designed to heat
>>>> the oil
>>>> making the engine easier to start.  Heating the coolant also
>>>> makes the
>>>> engine easier to start but via slightly different means.  Both have
>>>> their
>>>> advantages and disadvantages, in extreme cold climates it is common
>>>> to do
>>>> both and add a battery blanket.  When we prep cars headed North
>>>> they
>>>> usually get a pan heater(oil), block heater(coolant), battery
>>>> blanket, and
>>>> synthetic lubricants.  This is just to make sure
>>>> the vehicle will start.  Getting the occupant warm quickly upon
>>>> start up
>>>> is a function of the apparel they are wearing, not the heater.  A
>>>> more
>>>> expensive option would be a Webasto heater for your cooling system,
>>>> they
>>>> make one specifically intended to help warm the interior.  Last
>>>> but not
>>>> least, you could always move back to California.:<)
>>>>
>>>> Mark in AK
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
>>>> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:04 am
>>>> Subject: Re: Takes a darn long time for the heater to come up to
>>>> speed
>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>
>>>>> A kind listee provided a link to this "tank type" engine heater:
>>>>> http://www.jcwhitney.com/ZEROSTART-TANK-TYPE-ENGINE-
>>>>> HEATERS/GP_2000837_N_111+10201+600001648_10101.jcw
>>>>> I'm looking into it. The Mercedes adapter mentioned on the page
>>>>> has a
>>>>> catalog number that their search tool can't find, dunno if that
>>>>> would be
>>>>> needed to hook this heater - designed for 5/8'' hose -- to the
>>>>> Vanagon'sheater hoses or not?
>>>>>
>>>>> Speaking of which, what hose would be good to cut to insert this
>>>>> gadget?It looks like it wants to go into the heater hose loop
>>>>> somewhere,
>>>>> would it matter whether it goes into the heater send or return
>>>>> hose?
>>>>> Possibly not.   Anyway, if someone has a good idea, the Bentley
>>>>> page and
>>>>> hose callout would be cool. I'm also looking for the rumored oil
>>>>> pan
>>>>> heater. It may be a chimera, but there have been mentions of such
>>>>> things.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
>>>>> 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
>>>>> 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
>>>>> Bend, OR
>>>>> KG6RCR
>>>>>
>>>
>>
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