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Date:         Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:10:05 -0700
Reply-To:     Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Was: dead cat kills van- What About Bad Gas
Comments: To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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Dunno about bad gas killing a van, but I nearly killed Mrs Squirrel a few weeks ago with a severe case of bad gas.

Sorry. Not Friday. I'll shut up now. -- Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana") 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano Bend, OR KG6RCR

On 3/21/2009 2:59 PM Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:

> hi, > I've had engines start and run nicely on gas that was two years old even > ....... > so 'usually' gas that's 6 months old, is not 'the problem' by itself. > Could be a factor, but I wouldn't expect it to be 'the problem' . > > any mice or squirrels make a home in the van over the winter ? > I see that *VERY COMMONLY * in vehicles left sitting. > Amazing the damage they can do. > > I sometimes hot wire the fuel pump to make super sure it's running. > and in cases similar to yours, while I'm sorting through it I like a fuel > pressure gauge hooked up too, > all in the interests of making sure it's getting the fuel, and fuel > pressure it needs, or 'to make sure that's not it.' > > A nice way to quickly test for a clogged cat or muffler, btw , is to remove > the Oxygen sensor, so back pressure, if there is any , is relieved. > You might have a muffler just packed solid with dog food or tree nuts. > Not joking either. I just removed about 3 pounds of dog food pellets from a > car part that was sitting in a van in the country for a number of years. > Scott > www.turbovans.com > > one of the worst things you can do for any vehicle is let it sit. I > wouldn't ever let a vehicle sit more than say about 6 weeks, without running > it, and DRIVING it around some. And even that is rough on them, short > periods of operation, but it's less evil than just letting something sit. > > and for SURE .......it would have been nice to put a fuel stabilizer in the > gasoline when it was parked for winter non-use. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter T. Owsianowski" <pnoceanwesty@GMAIL.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 7:22 PM > Subject: Re: Was: dead cat kills van- What About Bad Gas > > >> This Cat Story got me thinking! >> >> My brother's '85 with a 2.2 GoWesty in it won't start after sitting in his >> barn most of the winter. It started on the first crank, ran for 4 >> seconds, >> then died. >> >> It has gas, spark, and is turning over well. Won't even pop one or two >> times. We put in new plugs turned it over, and nothing, then came out >> really wet. Checked the injectors and they are spraying well. Connected >> a >> known good ECU and cranked - nothing. Pumped some of the gas into a glass >> from two injectors and it had a really bad smell. We put the new plugs in >> front of the heater, then sprayed starter fluid in each cylinder, put the >> dried plugs back in, hooked up AFM and Viola! It started and ran >> wonderfully for about 8 seconds, then died and wouldn't start. Checked >> his >> gas tank level and it looked like 1/4 tank. He swears he had a 1/2 tank >> back in November when it started snowing here in northern Indiana. >> >> We plan on hooking up the fuel pump and draining out the gas in there and >> putting in as new as we can to see if it starts. >> >> He has a brand new Cat (last year) so it can't be that - If it is bad gas, >> can gas go bad in one winter? >> -- >> Pete >> '79 Westy "Aardvark" >> '87 Westy "Joe's Van" >> WWW.Busesbythebeach.com >


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