Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:10:57 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: transmission rebuild(long)
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well that was well stated and written, and very informative, thanks !
----- Original Message -----
From: "aatransaxle" <daryl@AATRANSAXLE.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: transmission rebuild(long)
>> If there is more to say, I and many of us are willing to listen.<
>
> OK..Here is more said. I can get long winded at times, sooo...
> I am not tooting just MY own horn here..Just stating the facts that we
> professionals deal with. I am not the only fish in the tranny sea. I like
> what I do and have been in the VW world for 35 yrs. The guys in Calif and
> Ken at German Trans are in the same boat as I am.
> The tough part of these aging trannys is that it takes an experienced eye
> to
> see the little wear points and have a system in place to replace/repair
> them.
> There are lots of creative guys out there who can build one. Don't get me
> wrong. I sell parts to quite a few in various places over a years time
> and
> there are always some who end up sending me the whole trans after they
> have
> tried.
> Gear sets wear..Shafts wear...cases wear... Its not a matter of just
> replacing a synchro and a bearing any longer. These parts are not
> available
> new for the most part and most 18 to 30+ trannys I see have over 200K on
> them. I have been stashing pieces and cores for years to be able to keep
> up.
> I have been having parts custom made as well.
> Just rebushing the 1/2 relay lever takes a custom bushing and drilling on
> a
> mill to accomplish. Same as the gear housing rebush.. I send 30+ at a time
> to a machinist to do that job. Seen many that have been gone thru by
> others
> with sloppy bearings and lever & stuff..Yes they do work for a while most
> times..but..YMMV and its not worth it if you have to go back in there a
> few
> times to get it figured out.
> Even us pro's have parts issues...Pinion bearing are bad occasionally from
> the factory and unless you know the correct feel of the preload..it will
> likely fail. Even if it fels right..It may go bad after a year..Ask me how
> I
> know this...(no, dont)
> Brand new sliders and gears can even pop out of gear..new parts and they
> still don't work right...frustrating but a fact of life in the tranny
> lane.
> I aplaud anyone who can get by with a genaric rebuild to save $$ in this
> economy if neccessary...Just be careful and get your expectations in line
> with the reality of working on tired equipment...
>
> Daryl of AA Transaxle
> (425) 788-4070
> aatransaxle.com
> 86 Syncro Westy
> Zetec in the trunk
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Zolly" <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:31 PM
> Subject: Re: transmission rebuild
>
>
>> Daryl,
>> If there is more to say, I and many of us are willing to listen. There
>> will be soon a lot of them who want to open it up and do whatever they
>> can
>> to save good money. These trannies are getting old, really. If they are
>> fixable in some economical way before they really get damaged inside, let
>> them do it. There will always be those who need a complete rewamp,
>> especially in the coming years.
>> Regards, Zoltan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "aatransaxle" <daryl@AATRANSAXLE.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: transmission rebuild
>>
>>
>>> From your symptoms....
>>> Ist gear is bad..
>>> 1/2 slider is bad if 1st is bad..
>>> 4th gear is bad..
>>> 3/4 slider is bad if it pops out
>>> 3/4 hubs are all bad if not repl with updated ones...
>>> Rebush the gear carrier housing so the mainshaft bearing will stay in
>>> place.
>>> Rebush case where 1/2 relay lever sits so there will be enough throw to
>>> get
>>> into 1st or 2nd.
>>> Need I say more??? (because there is more...) Your guy should know this
>>> stuff if he knows that particular tranny without being asked
>>>
>>> Any name brand gear oil generally works well if it changed on a regular
>>> basis.
>>> Good Luck
>>> Daryl of AA Transaxle
>>> (425) 788-4070
>>> aatransaxle.com
>>> 86 Syncro Westy
>>> Zetec in the trunk
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "AD Felder" <dieseldoofus@YAHOO.COM>
>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:50 PM
>>> Subject: transmission rebuild
>>>
>>>
>>> ok, at the risk of starting a fistfight, I am having my 4-speed 091
>>> transaxle rebuilt. Any opinions on lubricant for this? I am not big on
>>> synthetics because they are not "backward compatible".
>>>
>>> This transaxle would not go into or stay in first gear. second gear
>>> holds
>>> great but getting there is sometimes a little "iffy". no other known
>>> problems, but what should I think about having done while the case is
>>> open
>>> that a rebuilder may not neccessarily do without asking? Is replacing
>>> 4th
>>> gear still an issue (popping out when worn)? special synch rings?
>>> anything
>>> special?
>>
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