Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:00:35 -0700
Reply-To: aatransaxle <daryl@AATRANSAXLE.COM>
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From: aatransaxle <daryl@AATRANSAXLE.COM>
Subject: Re: transmission rebuild(long)
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> If there is more to say, I and many of us are willing to listen.<
OK..Here is more said. I can get long winded at times, sooo...
I am not tooting just MY own horn here..Just stating the facts that we
professionals deal with. I am not the only fish in the tranny sea. I like
what I do and have been in the VW world for 35 yrs. The guys in Calif and
Ken at German Trans are in the same boat as I am.
The tough part of these aging trannys is that it takes an experienced eye to
see the little wear points and have a system in place to replace/repair
them.
There are lots of creative guys out there who can build one. Don't get me
wrong. I sell parts to quite a few in various places over a years time and
there are always some who end up sending me the whole trans after they have
tried.
Gear sets wear..Shafts wear...cases wear... Its not a matter of just
replacing a synchro and a bearing any longer. These parts are not available
new for the most part and most 18 to 30+ trannys I see have over 200K on
them. I have been stashing pieces and cores for years to be able to keep up.
I have been having parts custom made as well.
Just rebushing the 1/2 relay lever takes a custom bushing and drilling on a
mill to accomplish. Same as the gear housing rebush.. I send 30+ at a time
to a machinist to do that job. Seen many that have been gone thru by others
with sloppy bearings and lever & stuff..Yes they do work for a while most
times..but..YMMV and its not worth it if you have to go back in there a few
times to get it figured out.
Even us pro's have parts issues...Pinion bearing are bad occasionally from
the factory and unless you know the correct feel of the preload..it will
likely fail. Even if it fels right..It may go bad after a year..Ask me how I
know this...(no, dont)
Brand new sliders and gears can even pop out of gear..new parts and they
still don't work right...frustrating but a fact of life in the tranny lane.
I aplaud anyone who can get by with a genaric rebuild to save $$ in this
economy if neccessary...Just be careful and get your expectations in line
with the reality of working on tired equipment...
Daryl of AA Transaxle
(425) 788-4070
aatransaxle.com
86 Syncro Westy
Zetec in the trunk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zolly" <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: transmission rebuild
> Daryl,
> If there is more to say, I and many of us are willing to listen. There
> will be soon a lot of them who want to open it up and do whatever they can
> to save good money. These trannies are getting old, really. If they are
> fixable in some economical way before they really get damaged inside, let
> them do it. There will always be those who need a complete rewamp,
> especially in the coming years.
> Regards, Zoltan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aatransaxle" <daryl@AATRANSAXLE.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: transmission rebuild
>
>
>> From your symptoms....
>> Ist gear is bad..
>> 1/2 slider is bad if 1st is bad..
>> 4th gear is bad..
>> 3/4 slider is bad if it pops out
>> 3/4 hubs are all bad if not repl with updated ones...
>> Rebush the gear carrier housing so the mainshaft bearing will stay in
>> place.
>> Rebush case where 1/2 relay lever sits so there will be enough throw to
>> get
>> into 1st or 2nd.
>> Need I say more??? (because there is more...) Your guy should know this
>> stuff if he knows that particular tranny without being asked
>>
>> Any name brand gear oil generally works well if it changed on a regular
>> basis.
>> Good Luck
>> Daryl of AA Transaxle
>> (425) 788-4070
>> aatransaxle.com
>> 86 Syncro Westy
>> Zetec in the trunk
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "AD Felder" <dieseldoofus@YAHOO.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:50 PM
>> Subject: transmission rebuild
>>
>>
>> ok, at the risk of starting a fistfight, I am having my 4-speed 091
>> transaxle rebuilt. Any opinions on lubricant for this? I am not big on
>> synthetics because they are not "backward compatible".
>>
>> This transaxle would not go into or stay in first gear. second gear holds
>> great but getting there is sometimes a little "iffy". no other known
>> problems, but what should I think about having done while the case is
>> open
>> that a rebuilder may not neccessarily do without asking? Is replacing 4th
>> gear still an issue (popping out when worn)? special synch rings?
>> anything
>> special?
>
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